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Posted : Wednesday, 4 January 2012 7:46:28 PM(UTC)
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Congradulations shane hope you and the Mrs have many many happy years together.
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Posted : Thursday, 5 January 2012 4:47:29 PM(UTC)
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Hi Shane - I was going to tease you a bit about not having a pin pointer and maybe the reason was because you "WANTED" to be away longer, but as you are freshly engaged I assume that's not the reason and I wish you and your Mrs all the best - congratulations!!! *8^)

Yes the AT Pro comes with the same size coil as yours. The AT Gold (which I have) has the smaller 5x8 coil for going between rocks and roots. Garrett have their heads screwed on, they give you the medium coil so if you want to go gold fossicking seriously you need to buy the sniper coil and if you want to go park hunting you need the larger coil. I might save and buy an AT PRO later so I can use the larger coil on the AT GOLD if I wish and also I'll have a machine for down at the beach. It's a shame Garrett didn't combine the two machines guess that's just another marketing ploy and really I doubt there is any internal difference except firmware. ~shrugs~

Happy hunting

Gregg

I do enjoy a good tease from those on my i like page of my fossicking book. PB is in there along with a few others. Hang on, just write you in..there we go, all good.
Yes, thankyou very much, and same to the Poohbear family as well. Was a great xmas and its turning out to be a great new year.
I suppose the 11 inch coil just bolts straight on, probably. Any idea of the cost of one?
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Posted : Friday, 6 January 2012 1:50:29 PM(UTC)
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Yay! I'm finally socially acceptable, my mum told me I would have to be patient and it's only taken 35 years *8^)

I've been taking the kids out with me lately and noticed the finds have slowed right down, funny how you need to be almost in a trance type state to do what we do and how kids manage to completely destroy that serenity!
Did ok yesterday found 54 coins ($27.20 usable) now bringing my total goldies finds to $281 so that's not bad in just over 1 1/2 months of detecting. Yesterdays finds also included a toy helicopter, a Chinese coin (I think) some pennies and I only dug 2 bottle caps that was the biggest surprise would usually be at least 20 - I did however dig 2 big alloy plates, that's cool alloy is always handy to have about!

The coil is about NZ$172 including freight the AT PRO is just over NZ$750 including freight but I'll have to pay gst as well.
Probably best to wait and get the AT Pro. I was thinking about a Fisher F4 but it all comes down to sooner or later I'll drown it!





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Posted : Friday, 6 January 2012 5:11:19 PM(UTC)
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When i take the young one fossicking i tell her that she can have the coin and i get the jewels. Seems to work. Mostly losing interest after 10 mins but a deal is a deal still..
172 for a coil. Sounds cheaper than a new detector when you already have a choice one. Then again, i need/want another detector for backup.
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Posted : Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:44:21 AM(UTC)
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Hi Shane

The problem with buying just the coil is that the AT GOLD is no good at the beach, there is a function to spread the ground balance which does have very limited success. So if I buy the coil now and then buy an AT PRO later I will have two coils the same,I probably should have got the AT PRO first as I haven't actually taken the AT GOLD gold fossicking yet BUT I thought I was more likely to go gold fossicking than beach hunting. Ahwell it seems many people on here have more than one machine.


I have a similar deal - the kids get any usable non goldies and I keep the rest. so far I think they have just over $20
I'm not sure if others miss the newer coins because they think it's a trash signal or just can't be bothered digging them, either way the kids are happy about it!

I get frustrated when I get interrupted it's like the kids have a sixth sense knowing when I've found a good spot, it's right at that moment "Dad I need to go toilet" or "I'm hungry" funny enough I never get hungry when I'm out hunting.

Anyways, found any treasures lately ?



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Posted : Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:34:57 PM(UTC)
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hey Shane congrats from me too man well done for popping the big Q!

All the best for 2012 may the finds be yellowy and expensive! :)

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Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2012 8:46:18 AM(UTC)
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hey Shane congrats from me too man well done for popping the big Q!

All the best for 2012 may the finds be yellowy and expensive! :)

Dan

Cheers Madsonic. Have a fantastic prosperous year too. May your next ding be a big GOLD ring.
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Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2012 9:06:11 AM(UTC)
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Havn't found any treasures the last week as it has been raining. Have had time to plan some future trips and hopefully the next spot will be the go as its a beach and its historic, right here in the bay of islands. If i had a boat the locations are endless.
Slowly savin up for aother detector. A, for backup, B as it would be good to have if someone wanted to come along for a hunt.
Wot is exciting is that Chrisyboys 250 should arrive mondayish. I dont know whos more excited, him or me.
I will probably hit the site for a few laps tonite.
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Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2012 11:08:48 AM(UTC)
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That is what I use my cheapy one for... it is an all metal pinpointer so it is easy to use and not as complicated. That way my friends or wife do not get frustrated... Last time my wife tried to use my F2 she was digging up lots of false signals... lol. and she didn't realise that she had to move over the target and got frustrated when she put the detector over the spot where something should be and it would not beep...

But I am sure that you are thinking about getting another good machine... not a cheapy.
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Posted : Monday, 9 January 2012 2:29:52 PM(UTC)
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Planning on gettin an ace 250 this time for backup. Possibly an at pro oneday, just dont have the funds for one of those. Will when i find a huge GOLD ring.. I do say that the 350 i have seems to be better than i ever expected so at this stage i question myself as to whether i actually need a better machine.
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Posted : Monday, 9 January 2012 3:12:23 PM(UTC)
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Hi Shane

Your 350 has made you a Garrett fan for life but...
I think an ace 250 for you would be a backwards step. You have done exceptionally well with your 350 and even if the 250 is for your partner or backup I think you would be left scratching your head wondering why you did it.
It's a different world having the numerical target ID and more complete audio and not to mention the target recovery speed.

I started with an Ace 250 pretty much when they first came out and it was good (in fact that's what got me hooked again), would I get one to back up my AT Gold? Nope, would I get a Fisher F2 Yes (although I'd prefer an F4 with the DD Coil).

I hate to say it but if you got an F2 you might find it's not the F2 that becomes the backup.
But for the moment I must stress you are blowing me away with your finds and you obviously have learnt your machine VERY well.

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Posted : Tuesday, 10 January 2012 9:38:57 PM(UTC)
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I would say that your quite right there Guardian. I havnt had the pleasure of trying another machine so i guess i couldnt speak from experience. General concencis tells me that i have a lot to learn. Would truely like to try a few differant machines before i consider purchasing a more expensive machine. As for the 250, i do want one for a backpack backup should anything go wrong. Im hoping that Chrisyboy and I will make a pilgramige down south this year and perhaps then we can compare outfits.
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Posted : Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:32:26 PM(UTC)
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Hi Shane.

Absolutely you're welcome to try out my gear if your down this way!

I should explain what I'm trying to say.
I think that with the amount of time you have spent using your 350 and the quality of your finds.
You are quickly outgrowing your machine.


The advantage of the 350 is that if you get a good tone you will dig and it might be good it might not be BUT you will dig.
It's very easy to pass up a target when you see what ID comes up and sometimes you are left wondering should I have dug that. BTW I still can't tell the difference between a squashed bottle cap (especially those white caps) and a goldie although the iron audio does help.

It's a crying shame that Garrett didn't put the numeric target Id into the 350 or upgrade the target recovery speed.
I've read some reviews saying people think the AT Pro is an upgraded 350. I don't agree with that I think a non waterproof cheaper version of the AT PRO should have been the 350.

When I was looking at a new detector I looked at getting another 250 then I looked at the 350 and I didn't understand why they would stick a DD coil on a machine to increase depth and not increase the target recovery speed, then I found the F2 and I was like WOW all this for the same price as the 250, then the F4 as it had the DD coil and adjustable ground balance. It basically boiled down to the AT GOLD being waterproof.

It seems every machine has it's limitations and I'm sure that's exactly how the manufactures want it!

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Posted : Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:05:07 PM(UTC)
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What do you think are the limitations of the AT Gold?
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Posted : Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:27:30 AM(UTC)
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I ran some tests on the GTI 2500. You need to avoid "coin" discrimination mode because it is calibrated to US coins, and ignores many NZ varieties. I run it in "jewellery" mode instead, which produces more hits for aluminium.

Also, I am very aware that the new style pulltab produces the exact same reaction as a half sovereign (in air tests at least) meaning I pull up a LOT of pull tabs!

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Posted : Wednesday, 11 January 2012 9:03:11 AM(UTC)
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What do you think are the limitations of the AT Gold?


Really I think the AT GOLD is excellent the only limitation I can think of is that you can't use it in wet sand or it just gives you a high target tone I knew that before I brought it but wasn't really planning on beach hunting, you can spread the ground balance which does help a little. Unlike the At Pro it doesn't have a notch function which I thought was going to bother me but you get used to hearing a good tone pretty quick. Of course in a Gold field you wouldn't be using discrim anyways.

I guess the Fisher gold bug would be the best comparison ~chime in anyone who knows better~
With the Gold Bug you can adjust it to use at the beach just a shame it's not waterproof.
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Posted : Thursday, 12 January 2012 4:49:19 PM(UTC)
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Hi Shane

The old man is bringing his Ace 250 with him on the weekend, it will be interesting to have another spin with one and see how much I suck using it.

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Posted : Thursday, 12 January 2012 5:23:48 PM(UTC)
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Hi Shane

The old man is bringing his Ace 250 with him on the weekend, it will be interesting to have another spin with one and see how much I suck using it.


Hopefully the first ding will be a big GOLD ring.. Cant wait to have a spin on Chrisyboys 250 or any machine for that matter. Some interesting views and points on differant machines and it seems that each one is missing something out stopping it from being the ultimate. I hunt in all metal mode always. Can be a bit frustrating but it seems to work for me. I dig almost everything but the iron unless im on the beach i try to dig everything. When iron targets get to intence i switch to jewelry mode and that normally sorts it out. Switching to jewelry mode also sorts out the target recovery speed problem as you dont have the iron signal to contend with. If an iron signal bounces then there most likely is something worth lookin at.

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Posted : Thursday, 12 January 2012 5:36:17 PM(UTC)
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Cheers Shane

I've found an old park here that is probably one of the oldest parks in the country, it's not that big and I've found silver there before.
I might give the 250 a spin there will be fun, interesting to use a standard coil and do the pinpointing from the centre of the coil not the top.
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Posted : Thursday, 12 January 2012 6:39:29 PM(UTC)
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yes i find the goldbug works great at the beach...at first i was getting alot of interfirance then i figured how to ballance it out..also the different coils help with that...i find i get less Extra noise with my new 10" coil than i do with my 11DD coil in the wet sand and i can go into the water as long as i dont get the computer bit wet..lol..
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