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goldstalkers detecting finds - coins,silver odds and ends

Foiled again		Posted : Tuesday, 23 July 2013 6:08:58 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 10/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 861 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 459 times Was thanked: 251 time(s) in 192 post(s)		I was gunna go out again tonight, but now its raining.....doh!
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NUGGY		Posted : Wednesday, 24 July 2013 10:38:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: greymouth Thanks: 85 times Was thanked: 76 time(s) in 58 post(s)		Not bad money for a florin! I had no idea they were worth this much - thought about $25 each maybe, you had two similar ones when you were here. http://www.trademe.co.nz...isting.aspx?id=615844512 Better find some more then! NUGGY

oroplata		Posted : Wednesday, 24 July 2013 12:43:07 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		That's a DOUBLE florin. Some of them have an inverted "1" for an "I" in "Victoria", and are worth about 3x normal value.
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NUGGY		Posted : Wednesday, 24 July 2013 12:50:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: greymouth Thanks: 85 times Was thanked: 76 time(s) in 58 post(s)		Ok, I didn't quite read it properly. Never heard of the double florin before - not a coin collector. NUGGY

goldstalker		Posted : Wednesday, 24 July 2013 6:34:48 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: NUGGY Not bad money for a florin! I had no idea they were worth this much - thought about $25 each maybe, you had two similar ones when you were here. http://www.trademe.co.nz...isting.aspx?id=615844512 Better find some more then! NUGGY i sold one of mine for $80 1 gothic florin date 1881 i kept my 1878 gothic florin and i have it on trademe with 2 other florins for $200 reserve if they are in poor condition you can get $25 if there in unc condition around $600 mine is vf-ef so im guessing around $150-$200 for the one coin :) they are a sort after coin all over the world

goldstalker		Posted : Sunday, 28 July 2013 8:08:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		well heres my finds for this weekend at a new spot me and a mate have been investigating and guess what i found today my first halfcrown 1934 and in mint condition, and a few more nz silvers, and a british threepence and alot of half pennys and pennys, also i found a M1 42 bullet casing my guess M1 grand shell? and tip ? enjoy oh and if someone can tell me what grade they give the halfcrown example (vf ef etc ? File Attachment(s): paydirt.jpg paydirt 2.jpg paydirt 3.jpg paydirt 4.jpg

chrischch		Posted : Sunday, 28 July 2013 9:29:32 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/08/2011(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 192 times Was thanked: 105 time(s) in 104 post(s)		Nice! Cant wait to nab one myself. Did it give a real good signal being so big and silver?
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goldstalker		Posted : Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:15:40 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chrischch Nice! Cant wait to nab one myself. Did it give a real good signal being so big and silver? gave a solid 82 on the AT pro normally that number is either a few things 2c,some pennys,bottletop's the british gothic florins were a solid 91 i guess it's because there .925 silver and the NZ halfcrowns only 50% silver, it cleaned up real nice looks almost UNC :)

latch		Posted : Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:16:34 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 192 Location: dunedin Thanks: 198 times Was thanked: 27 time(s) in 27 post(s)		nice finds wish i could find a half crown lol are those all pennies?
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goldstalker		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 1:03:10 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: latch nice finds wish i could find a half crown lol are those all pennies? most of them are halfpennys and pennys theres a couple of old 20c and 50c i normaly get anywere from 10-30 pennys in a hunt.

grubby		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 7:24:43 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 130 Location: west auckland Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)		Hiya. Great finds there mate. The best I managed yesterday was a 43 shilling and a 35 sixpence. I'm not a coin expert but have been collecting for over 20 years and I would grade your half crown as fine to good fine. That's pretty good for a coin that has been in the ground for a few years.

Metal Kiwi		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 9:52:00 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,210 Location: Auckland Thanks: 498 times Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)		Originally Posted by: grubby Hiya. Great finds there mate. The best I managed yesterday was a 43 shilling and a 35 sixpence. I'm not a coin expert but have been collecting for over 20 years and I would grade your half crown as fine to good fine. That's pretty good for a coin that has been in the ground for a few years. Whoever designed the NZ half crown sure did a great job. Wish I could find more of them. I don't know about grades but I see there is a piece out of the rim at the top and I think the kings head is actually a bit worn when looking closely. Yes it sure is a nice coin though. MK
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goldstalker		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 2:49:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Metal Kiwi Originally Posted by: grubby Hiya. Great finds there mate. The best I managed yesterday was a 43 shilling and a 35 sixpence. I'm not a coin expert but have been collecting for over 20 years and I would grade your half crown as fine to good fine. That's pretty good for a coin that has been in the ground for a few years. Whoever designed the NZ half crown sure did a great job. Wish I could find more of them. I don't know about grades but I see there is a piece out of the rim at the top and I think the kings head is actually a bit worn when looking closely. Yes it sure is a nice coin though. MK yes i nicked the rim with digging tool lol, and kings head has very light wear, worse looking ones on trademe for $25 plus, my guess was VF very fine as the detail is nice. in new zealand its hard to get what a coins worth in its catalouge value even trying to get half of the catalouge value is a struggle. i guess us kiwis are tight arses when it comes to collectables. im going to sell my coins out of NZ like ebay or something if i list my 100 silver coins ill be lucky to get silver weight value here :(

goldstalker		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 2:52:03 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: grubby Hiya. Great finds there mate. The best I managed yesterday was a 43 shilling and a 35 sixpence. I'm not a coin expert but have been collecting for over 20 years and I would grade your half crown as fine to good fine. That's pretty good for a coin that has been in the ground for a few years. hey grubby thanks for the comment, i only go by grades that are in the catalouge like AVE/CIRC, VF, EF, AU, UNC

grubby		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 9:37:51 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 130 Location: west auckland Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)		Hi Goldstalker, There are a few coin grading systems but the most commonly used is the standard British system. This is the system we use in New Zealand. At the bottom it starts with Poor, Fair, Fine, Very Fine, Extremely Fine then Uncirculated. Inbetween there are terms like " Good Fine " and " Almost Uncirculated " and " Brilliant Uncirculated " I hope this helps.

goldstalker		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 9:49:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: grubby Hi Goldstalker, There are a few coin grading systems but the most commonly used is the standard British system. This is the system we use in New Zealand. At the bottom it starts with Poor, Fair, Fine, Very Fine, Extremely Fine then Uncirculated. Inbetween there are terms like " Good Fine " and " Almost Uncirculated " and " Brilliant Uncirculated " I hope this helps. hi again i think youll find that poor fair and fine all fall under AVE/CIRC then VF EF UNC otherwise there would be alot of grades :) thats how they grade them (new zealand coins) and price them in the 2013 john bertrand catalouge :)

grubby		Posted : Monday, 29 July 2013 10:23:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 130 Location: west auckland Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)		That is correct to a degree.... poor, fair and fine have been lumped together as ave/circ in the bertrand catalogue but that is only because most New Zealand coins are worth bugger all in poor, fair or fine condition and there would be no point in listing separate prices for them. The way coins are listed in the Bertrand catalogue is simply their way of listing their retail prices. It does not include all grades of coins. So yes, you are right..... there are a lot of grades. And trust me. Serious collectors do use intermediate grades like " good fine " Etc. Sorry, I'm not trying to be a know it all. Just offering up some information. Keep up the hunting. You are obviously having a lot of success. Lots of silver. Kind regards, Grubby.

goldstalker		Posted : Tuesday, 30 July 2013 12:28:41 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		Originally Posted by: grubby That is correct to a degree.... poor, fair and fine have been lumped together as ave/circ in the bertrand catalogue but that is only because most New Zealand coins are worth bugger all in poor, fair or fine condition and there would be no point in listing separate prices for them. The way coins are listed in the Bertrand catalogue is simply their way of listing their retail prices. It does not include all grades of coins. So yes, you are right..... there are a lot of grades. And trust me. Serious collectors do use intermediate grades like " good fine " Etc. Sorry, I'm not trying to be a know it all. Just offering up some information. Keep up the hunting. You are obviously having a lot of success. Lots of silver. Kind regards, Grubby. thanks grubby, and i dont think your a know it all lol thanks for the good info. i would like to get some of my better coins graded proffesionaly with certificate? is this possible and do you know who is the best to see for it ? any info would be appreciated

grubby		Posted : Tuesday, 30 July 2013 9:54:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 130 Location: west auckland Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)		I don't know of any coin dealers on the coast..... I'm sure there probably are some. There were definitely a few in chch pre earth quake. I guess there are still some there. I live in Dorkland and only know the local dealers and a couple in Wellywood. Maybe some of the west coast or ChCh detectormifyers on this forum can help out. Good luck.

goldstalker		Posted : Tuesday, 13 August 2013 6:22:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 11/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 454 Location: greymouth, west coast Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 67 time(s) in 57 post(s)		hey guys been doing some more chch metal detecting and found a few things but this is my best find this trip a nice .925 silver and 9ct gold ring very heavy

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