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In my eyes a fake is "A FAKE" end of story!

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Edited by user Sunday, 11 August 2013 12:45:27 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

far out if it cost less than $100 to find out if there good its cheap price to pay, what if it works as its ment to, and is original youll look like a idiot for not buying one :0 thats how i see it :) i dont mind throwing that sorta cash at it as $400 is abit over priced.

Thats bull shit - I think you have a cheek accusing anyone of us who patronizes him for being just as bad. I think anyone who says something like that is the bloody lowlife if you want my opinion!

YES HE is a lowlife IF he is selling a counterfeit item knowing it to be a fraudulent item and setting out to deceive others...yes that is lowlife. Would you please name those here who have patronized him because I dont think anyone here has...we have spoken our opinions and so what?

I for one have not patronized him but I have no problems with parallel imports if that is what it is and if its a cheap Chinese copy then I would like to try it out and see how good it is but at the same time see him done under the Trade and Commerce Act - I think theres one.

You said ' If I wanted one I'd be happy to keep my money in my pocket and let someone else pay to be a canary in the mine.' - If you wanted one you would keep your money in your pocket' - Does that mean you would steal it? Now thats lowlife as well. Anyone might think you are a racist with a problem against the Chinese inferring that Chinese is inferior. my son imports Chinese goods for his own use at a tiny fraction of the cost and everything he has got for him and for me is spot on and unlike other products in the few instances something has arrived damaged at NO fault to them - eg screwdriver stabbed through a parcel damaging an item in transit - they have sent a replacement one right away free of cost - I wonder if Mr Scrooge would do that.

I just love your comment about 'Theres a helluva lot of idiotic looking dudes walking around' - there sure is and most of them have got life to perfection, avoid work like the plague, get YOU to support them and you pay taxes to do so - you see that it is one thing to look an idiot but another to be one!

Edited by user Wednesday, 8 May 2013 12:42:30 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I think I read it properly and in context of what you wrote and find that your comment above in the reference to those who deal with the man were an insult and I for one dont ignore insults - ever - so please dont ignore mine as I dont happen to be unduly charitable.

I read them properly and that is why I said what I did...and I stick by it. You just said 'What I did say is that anyone who (knowingly) patronises someone who flogs counterfeit items is just as bad.' - no you did not - you wrote 'anyone who patronizes him is just as bad' and that is ambiguous and could well have been a reference to two major points - 1) Anyone who purchases from him AND the part I took it as and made my comment based on 2) anyone on this forum who makes a positive comment about the man or his product in any way - By taking the latter meaning of your statement I feel that I was fully justified in what I said - but better still did you read you OWN comment and analyse what it meant and see the two meanings in it? Maybe not.

Maybe your choice of the word patronizing and placing it in the context you did was not well thought out.

Edited by user Wednesday, 8 May 2013 9:01:19 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

nice agapanthis!

Yes you wrote what you wrote for everyone to see - 'he's a deceptive, bludging lowlife and anyone who patronises him is just as bad'

This is what I took offense at as it has the dual meaning one of which might infer that we members who might chose to deal from hi m are lowlifes.
Now your comment above I see as a tirade and therefore you are the classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. I suggest that before you write such twaddle you take your pill then dont write what others might consider offensive.
No I am not charitable to people like you but in other regards contrary to what I wrote above I may be a lot more charitable but we dont know each other so I shant go there.
Your one liner I have quoted above tells me all I need to know about you an dit is not much.

You may make another comment before you take your pill as I have no intention of replying.

Happy birthday.

Well I guess you and I could never get along because I believe that a lot of the originals are overpriced and if an item is a counterfeit and it works just as well then I will buy it. I did say however that he should go for a skate attempting to defraud if it is done so knowingly.

Your initial sentence was only partly quoted - yes - but it did not alter the meaning which was simply that anyone who patronizes him is as bad and therefore it was not relevant to quote the beginning as it did not alter the context.

Yes it might have been better for you to have quantified your initial statement to clarify its meaning as that might have avoided misunderstanding.

Maybe we look at things differently in many respects and this is slightly different but if someone else for example decided to bring in Fisher products and undercut Robert I would not deal with them as I do give my loyalty to the initial dealer who first brought them in providing his mark up is modest and his service is good. I would see the second person as a copy cat. IF a fly by nighter brought in a Fisher copy then I would certainly like to get one but more out of curiosity to see just how they compare.

If we all agreed on everything then there would be nothing to debate and the world would be a boring place as you say and so this discussion ends I guess to the satisfaction of all...I hope.

I stick by what I say and you stick by what you say in respect of the sentence in debate and this is merely the different way in which we look at things and with that I have no problem.

As far as the mans product is concerned I do agree that he is a lowlife selling fraudulently and deceiving people - I have no worries with agreeing to that. It is just that I would like to get hold of one to see how it compares!

Then why do all the pilots in war films say "Over and Out" just before they are going to bomb the Jerrys or shoot up something? I will have to think about this.

As for Nit picking - I was at a friends house the other day and she had been doing that to her kids and had the nefarious little parasites in a bottle so is that what youre doing to? You have confused me even further because now I have to ponder how 'over and out' is associated with nit picking unless it refers to hovering over the kiddies hair and pulling the nits out...yes I guess that must be it..

Edited by user Thursday, 9 May 2013 12:17:41 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified