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Posted : Saturday, 10 December 2011 10:18:50 AM(UTC)
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Great posts Lammerlaw. Awesome reading.

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Posted : Saturday, 10 December 2011 11:55:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: creamer Go to Quoted Post
Great posts Lammerlaw. Awesome reading.

Shane


Thanks Shane - I just wish I could take a lot of you decent fellows up there to share the place - I was supposed to be up there now but my second name is Mr Late - so I hope to be on the hill by 1.30 today.

Have a great weekend Shane and hope that many treasures await you.

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Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 8:28:44 PM(UTC)
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They say that gold is where you find it and this photo shows a spot about 600 yards from the photos above heading upstream - just after the big floods in 1981 I was walking up the riverbed at the spot where the gold gear is visible - just down from the blue spot, whatever it is - I have forgotten - I spotted gold nuggets from perhaps twenty feet away - the next hour was a very pleasant one indeed and I never kept a record of how much I recovered that day but it was several ounces - I guess those days are gone. I told my son about 'This great spot I know'...and we never found another colour - thats the way it goes!

There is a fair bit of number eight wire scattered around here and I think the depression miners might have used it to move rocks as some of it is wedged under large rocks and has been there a long time.

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Posted : Friday, 16 December 2011 9:59:01 AM(UTC)
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It is so easy to say something but when the best laid plans are put into practice it is another thing to carry them out - After the floods of 1981 and my subsequent gold finds at this point I know there is still gold here - but it is easy to say that...getting it is another thing entirely. The only way to thoroughly work a spot such as that illustrated above is methodically and over a period of time...and even then success can never be guaranteed. A channel can still be seen running around the base of the hill on the upper side of the river and I assume the old timers channelled the river around there.

We attempted to move one giant rock within the scope of the above photo but it is still there and I have no doubt that under the rocks between the miners diversion channel and the main river, or where it flows now there is a good deal of gold - but getting it without heavy machinery is a herculean and back breaking task which would take a team of guys an entire summer season of full time working.

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Posted : Friday, 16 December 2011 11:30:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Go to Quoted Post


but getting it without heavy machinery is a herculean and back breaking task which would take a team of guys an entire summer season of full time working.



Can I smell a NZ version of "gold Rush" being attempted lol ?

If the egyptians built pyramids without cranes I'm sure a plane could be devised to move a mountain or 2 :)
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Posted : Friday, 16 December 2011 12:01:03 PM(UTC)
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Posted : Friday, 16 December 2011 12:06:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: madsonicboating Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Go to Quoted Post


but getting it without heavy machinery is a herculean and back breaking task which would take a team of guys an entire summer season of full time working.



Can I smell a NZ version of "gold Rush" being attempted lol ?

If the egyptians built pyramids without cranes I'm sure a plane could be devised to move a mountain or 2 :)


The area is off limits now and actually policed to ensure mining in any form does not take place. In any case it could be said that nearly forty years was enough to 'skim the cream'

I do believe that there are thousands of spots throughout Otago where easier gold than that can be found but people make several mistakes -

They think the bigger the river the more the gold - wrong - there is just as much gold for the size of the stream in small creeks as there are in large streams or river.

They think that because someone has worked it for many years then there will be just as much to be taken out with the same effort of work that those who came before put in - wrong - what was taken out has gone and what is left may be more in weight and volume but a hundred times more difficult to get at.

They think that the gold is where everyone is working or has worked in the recent past - wrong - many little creeks and streams where no one has fossicked for seventy and more years are richer per area than any of the major rivers where the current claims are.

People are like sheep - they follow the leader and follow the paths others set - often the best paths are the ones untrodden!

Yes mountains can be moved BUT that takes money and if money is to be spent will the return warrant it? I did well gold mining because I did it on the cheap, used second hand freebie dredges and made all my own gear and never spent big money on heavy machinery to move mountains...I like the mountains so they can stay where they are methinks..
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Posted : Friday, 16 December 2011 12:07:45 PM(UTC)
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It was here that I had my easiest returns and all in one weekend.

This 'hole' looks deep but it isnt - three foot deep at the deepest so it was easily worked. It was here that I got half a pound of gold in three handfuls of dirt in half a minute. It was an interesting and strange spot - the flat bedrock in six inches to a foot of water above this spot had some great crevices and there was not a speck of gold in any of them, downstream where a tiny hut sat on the bank likewise - no gold. On the hill above this hole there was evidence that it was once worked and I have often wondered if the gold in the hole came from the hillside though I doubt it. It was almost as though the old timers worked above this stretch of water and below it and although they could have worked this spot with ease it is almost as if they forgot to do so or maybe thought someone else had. Despuite the dark appearance of the water in places no where in the scope of these photos is the water more than three foot deep.

It was also here at a later date that I broke open the bedrock leading up into the bank and found two ounces of very fine to floury gold - one of only two spots in this river that I actually got flour gold

In one of the photos the shiny square object on the bank is my pontoons which I floated my gear on...made of Aluminium they are currently for sale should anyone want eight foot long pontoons to make a dredge out of...price to be negotiated.

Up around the corner in photo number two and beside the word 'middle' a rock outcrop can be seen and I shall comment further about a spot below it in a latter contribution.

The last photo shows the best handful of gold I got out of this hole - nearly 2 1/4 oz or 72 grammes in one handful.

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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 3:09:01 PM(UTC)
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Only just discovered this little saga and have been really enjoying it . Please keep up the installments. Will need a good read when I get back from the coast.
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 3:30:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Flintlock Go to Quoted Post
Only just discovered this little saga and have been really enjoying it . Please keep up the installments. Will need a good read when I get back from the coast.


I was actually thinking of cutting it short due to lack of interest - it could go on for ten years hence but has to end somewhere! It is gratifying though that someone appreciates it but the quality of the photos isnt too good as the originals were taken with an El Cheapo camera!

Thanks for the positive comment - much appreciated it - 'Flintlock' - never have managed to get one of them...yet.
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 4:13:15 PM(UTC)
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Oh but you are far too modest Lammerlaw. 1669 views and still going. What other incentives do you need to keep your reminiscings public.

I've been away for a few weeks and am still trying to catch up with your prolific posts. Bloody enjoyable. Thanks for making the effort.
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 5:30:14 PM(UTC)
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come on lammerlaw you know your the best story teller round here

i read everyone look at all the photos and wish i lived alittle closer to share stories with you

keep up the good work its just a shame i dont have many gold photos all hunting, sailing, and tramping dont even carry the camera in the bush these days
keep the stories coming you old gold digger
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 8:52:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gjj109 Go to Quoted Post
Oh but you are far too modest Lammerlaw. 1669 views and still going. What other incentives do you need to keep your reminiscings public.

I've been away for a few weeks and am still trying to catch up with your prolific posts. Bloody enjoyable. Thanks for making the effort.


Until now I have never really shared any of this and there aint gonna be no book - I dont think - and it is nice to share stories - I have got to the stage in life where there are new things to do and this claim is now out of reach of anyone to prospect or fossick and so it doesnt matter if the story is told.

At the same time if any one can get hints form the story which they can put into practice to find gold for themselves, and if it stirs them to go and look for gold themselves then to me it is worthwhile as everyone who reads this should realise that New Zealand belongs to them and not to the off shore bankers and rich businessmen and they must never allow themselves to be blocked off from their own country.

If I can tell a story and it even partially encourages others to go and do the same things then it is well worthwhile.

Keith - Yes I wished you lived a lot closer - I could have done with a good partner to come with me and share times together and somehow I think you and I would get along fine...you will get over here one day to catch up I hope.

As for photographs - I never really took one often but my wife did and she took the photos - I am a professional camera annihilator. When she still had some sort of faith in me and came with me she took photos but now....,..we dont even talk to each other!
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 9:00:26 PM(UTC)
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Yeah photos are something I was never much good for. Never seem to have a camera when anything interesting happens, and if I carry one nothing interesting happens .. what-do-you-do.
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 9:37:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mineforgold.co.nz Go to Quoted Post
Yeah photos are something I was never much good for. Never seem to have a camera when anything interesting happens, and if I carry one nothing interesting happens .. what-do-you-do.


Foster the friendship of someone who is a cameraholic! I was given a camera by Dad for Christmas this year so I took it up to my place and when I got home didnt have a clue where it was - I must have given it to my son to carry and just forgot all about it - My wife had a camera and it took a lot of these photos but I took swimming lessons with it in my pack one day and it was bye bye Pentax. I also had a friend who loved to come with us hunting and he was also a cameraholic so he took a great number of photographs as well.

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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 10:28:16 PM(UTC)
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keep sharing graeme, I have done the the same, keep taking camera for a walk, must start taking pics of the son dredging, but i get so engrossed in prospecting i forget to take pics. Whats with the probs with the gorse, a shame the tussock is so close, chemical persuasion migth help, the smoke and hawks circling looking for a cooked feed, but alas no barbecue to be had that far out of town!!!!! I,m sure there is enough people close by on this forum that would be glad to lend a hand to a fellow digger in time of need. I have use of an old david brown dozer up mount cargill, bloody tracks migth handel it
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 10:49:17 PM(UTC)
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keep sharing graeme, I have done the the same, keep taking camera for a walk, must start taking pics of the son dredging, but i get so engrossed in prospecting i forget to take pics. Whats with the probs with the gorse, a shame the tussock is so close, chemical persuasion migth help, the smoke and hawks circling looking for a cooked feed, but alas no barbecue to be had that far out of town!!!!! I,m sure there is enough people close by on this forum that would be glad to lend a hand to a fellow digger in time of need. I have use of an old david brown dozer up mount cargill, bloody tracks migth handel it


Yes the chemical persuasion idea is good - I have a lot of poison here and dont like poison but what else is there - cant light fires - Im afraid its a foregone conclusion - yes if I had the money I would buy a dozer as that is indeed the answer and one I have often thought about...but I didnt win lotto tonight! A friend of mine up My Cargill once had...I think he still has it...a John Deere double banger but no good in my country.
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 11:10:54 PM(UTC)
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Hawlich have a good size dozer up saddle hill quarry, must be a bloody good one as there is few people scared it is going to change the shape of the hill ,might have to get on to Brett, and see if he wants to move your mound around and some gorse with it aye
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Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 11:45:42 PM(UTC)
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Hawlich have a good size dozer up saddle hill quarry, must be a bloody good one as there is few people scared it is going to change the shape of the hill ,might have to get on to Brett, and see if he wants to move your mound around and some gorse with it aye


I am pretty independent and would never be obligated to people so would decline the kind offer - I look at it from the positive perspective that if it was sold think of the things I could buy and no gorse worries!...theres a boat I am still keen on so lose on the swings and win on the roundabout!
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Posted : Sunday, 18 December 2011 12:41:46 AM(UTC)
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Graham i also love your stories..as i think everyone else here does..keep up the good work and the pics..they may be old but they tell a story as well.
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