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Posted : Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:57:16 AM(UTC)
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Good stuff....i soo look forward to each installment. I also have to say you definately inspire me to go out and get gold when you show what you have found with knowledge and experience. If only you could buy that at a tool shop!

I'd be wrapped to find 1 gram let alone 50!

What's the story behind the nugget in the bottom pic? It's a decent size.
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Posted : Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:54:10 AM(UTC)
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hi
thats better than my monday i got 16.2grms in 5 hours you know where
shifted about 15cubic met so that puts it about 1 grm per cub met


Thats still great going Keith - I am supposed to be meeting Henry (9oznuggetman) up at my place this weekend - he might be going up today I think but hes keen as the weathers supposed to turn to custard! I just put Dads engine into the back of my truck as I have decided to follow the lead I am currently working to where ever it goes!
Henry reckons we might replace the boards on the back of the house and then we will go looking for gold. He and his brother got around five grammes just within say 400m of where you had your caravan parked - he never ceases to amaze me!
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Posted : Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:58:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chrischch Go to Quoted Post
Good stuff....i soo look forward to each installment. I also have to say you definately inspire me to go out and get gold when you show what you have found with knowledge and experience. If only you could buy that at a tool shop!

I'd be wrapped to find 1 gram let alone 50!

What's the story behind the nugget in the bottom pic? It's a decent size.


That is one of three which I got one after the other in a short space of time - all were eight penny weight exactly - not a grain under and not a grain over - spot on 8dwt. They were also found within a mile of each other.

No reason you cant get some good gold but get yourself a Goldbug or similar as there are several guys who are more than making wages just running around in not so silly circles going beep beep and they aint Roadrunners. Write to me on my email address...a one grammer is well within your reach.
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Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 2:23:49 PM(UTC)
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How odd getting 3 nuggets the exact same weight one after the other! A goldbug is definately on the buy list asap. The F2 wouldnt cut the mustard. Money is a bit tight as I cant work until my wifes back is healed. She is freaking out about being laid up on her back alone during an earthquake so I'm going to have to stay home for a while. Still getting a few aftershocks now and then.
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Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 8:31:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chrischch Go to Quoted Post
How odd getting 3 nuggets the exact same weight one after the other! A goldbug is definately on the buy list asap. The F2 wouldnt cut the mustard. Money is a bit tight as I cant work until my wifes back is healed. She is freaking out about being laid up on her back alone during an earthquake so I'm going to have to stay home for a while. Still getting a few aftershocks now and then.


I had often thought how strange it was to find three nuggets all within a grain or so of each other in weight - One of them is plain but would make a great pendant. I found it under interesting circumstances - There was an amazing overhanging crevice which was going to be totally loaded with Gold - so I thought. I worked it from the left hand side out to the main flow of the river for not one colour even though it should have been loaded - but I did find a spoon! The old timers must have workked it a hundred years ago and they went so far obviously as to spoon even the deepest material from the very back of the overhang. When I got out to where the current was though I ran into Gold and got ounces of it including the 8 pennyweight nugget - if I ever decide to continue Lammerlaws Road to El Dorado I will show more of where it came from but I will include a photo in the next offering...if I remember!
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Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 11:29:47 PM(UTC)
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How neat going exactly where some fellow(s) had been 100 odd years back and seeing evidence. Same with the tools you have found. Must be an odd feeling.
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Posted : Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:01:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chrischch Go to Quoted Post
How neat going exactly where some fellow(s) had been 100 odd years back and seeing evidence. Same with the tools you have found. Must be an odd feeling.


It can be an odd feeling - I have learnt a great deal about the lives and times of the old timers over the years, a marble bottle pushed into the ground in the doorway of a hut to hold a candle, jars and bottles neatly stacked or neatly placed in aline beside the fireplace ready to use, shoes and boots still in a hut in a row along the wall as though waiting for the miners who owned them to return. Today we picked up one broken pick head and some steel spikes the old timers used for splitting rocks open and also today for the first time in years I drove along a stretch of track on my place which was the original miners track to the gold diggings up behind my place and as I drove noted that the tussock and other native plants are more or less obliterating the track so that one day the line of the track will not even be a memory.

These two pick heads came from up the back of my place and together with shovels would be the most common tool of the old miners we find but whereas the shovels were made in a totally different manner to those of today the picks have never really changed and are the same as one might buy in a hardware shop today.

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Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 7:53:16 PM(UTC)
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Another very popular little rifle during the latter years of the Gol mining era in Central Otago was the Little Winchester Single shot .22 Bolt action - they were so simple that they never broke down, reliable and accurate and a inexpensive.

I have seen a couple of photos taken in Central Otago featuring men holding these rifles including one of the crew of a Gold dredge and although the fact that the rifle is being held by a dredge crew member it was probably being held as a 'prop' and would have had nothing to do with protection but rather would have been used by the dredgeman and his mates for a Sundays Bunny hunting to supplement the cooks fare.

The gold nugget is the second of three which I picked up in my wanderings in the hills which weighs exactly eight pennyweight to the grain or near enough to 12 grammes - I picked it up with another ounce of smaller nuggets. This nugget and its mates are testimonial to the fact that each and every one of us can find our own spots to find good gold without stepping on the toes of others as it was found where no one else would have thought of looking.

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Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 8:31:51 PM(UTC)
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hi lammerlaw ihave a booklet on MACETOWN which i bought across withme 35 years ago would it be of any youse to you ?????exkiwi
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Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 9:58:45 PM(UTC)
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hi lammerlaw ihave a booklet on MACETOWN which i bought across withme 35 years ago would it be of any youse to you ?????exkiwi


Thats a great thought but I will possibly have it - I know that there were three or so publications about Macetown - I loaned one to a person and never saw it again then there was a thin book which until I looked for it now I was sure I had or have and there is Macetown and Arrow Gorge a publication By DOC which I have got.

If it is a copy of the one I once loaned to a guy which is irretrievable because hes dead at the moment then it could well be a treasure to me as I have a soft spot for Macetown - camped there for two weeks every January and every Easter for most of the 70s - love the place.

A couple of photos of my last trip there - not relics of the goldfields but an incentive for others who love the wide open spaces, Goldmining history and getting away from the 'rat race'

For those who think that all the gold has gone from up the Arrow Gorge I also include a photograph of one sixth of three afternoons Gold fossicking in the Arrow River - the Gold in this photo weighs just over one ounce so that in the three afternoons we got six ounces.

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Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:05:56 PM(UTC)
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That's some nice chunks. Did you get that dredging, sluicing or detecting Graham?
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Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:09:03 PM(UTC)
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hi lammerlaw ihave a look for you on the weekend and let you know whats it called exkiwi123
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Posted : Thursday, 16 February 2012 9:39:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chrischch Go to Quoted Post
That's some nice chunks. Did you get that dredging, sluicing or detecting Graham?


We got them by none of those methods - we picked them up in our fingers just by fanning the gravel away - as the tourists and holidaymakers walked along the track above us! I have never known the water to be as cold as it was that January. I am not sure of the heaviest piece but it might be 6 grammes - when I look it out I might weigh it and correct the weight here.

I went for a walk with my family to the 'exact' spot a couple of Christmases ago but age indicates to me that the short walk to the spot is longer than it was then and senility is such that I well remember the exact spot but cant quite locate it!
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Posted : Thursday, 16 February 2012 9:41:28 AM(UTC)
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hi lammerlaw ihave a look for you on the weekend and let you know whats it called exkiwi123



That will be cool thanks exkiwi123
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Posted : Thursday, 16 February 2012 10:16:37 AM(UTC)
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That's some nice chunks. Did you get that dredging, sluicing or detecting Graham?


We got them by none of those methods - we picked them up in our fingers just by fanning the gravel away - as the tourists and holidaymakers walked along the track above us! I have never known the water to be as cold as it was that January. I am not sure of the heaviest piece but it might be 6 grammes - when I look it out I might weigh it and correct the weight here.

I went for a walk with my family to the 'exact' spot a couple of Christmases ago but age indicates to me that the short walk to the spot is longer than it was then and senility is such that I well remember the exact spot but cant quite locate it!




Wow....u must have coils in your hands lol!
Isnt it funny how you can picture someplace in your mind but when you get there, nothing matches your mental image?
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Posted : Thursday, 16 February 2012 10:25:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chrischch Go to Quoted Post
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That's some nice chunks. Did you get that dredging, sluicing or detecting Graham?


We got them by none of those methods - we picked them up in our fingers just by fanning the gravel away - as the tourists and holidaymakers walked along the track above us! I have never known the water to be as cold as it was that January. I am not sure of the heaviest piece but it might be 6 grammes - when I look it out I might weigh it and correct the weight here.

I went for a walk with my family to the 'exact' spot a couple of Christmases ago but age indicates to me that the short walk to the spot is longer than it was then and senility is such that I well remember the exact spot but cant quite locate it!




Wow....u must have coils in your hands lol!
Isnt it funny how you can picture someplace in your mind but when you get there, nothing matches your mental image?


Yes it sure is - a friend of mine who cruises this forum but who is too sensible to be a member once told me of a crow bar which had been put in place a couple of generations ago to mark a rich gold lead with specimen gold - I went looking for it and assuming that he knew the place and I knew the place then no one else need know it or come across the crow bar, wonder why it was there and dig out of curiousity - so I removed it - I never could find the exact spot again!

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Posted : Thursday, 16 February 2012 10:35:22 AM(UTC)
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Haha what a bugger! That would annoy ya!
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Posted : Thursday, 16 February 2012 10:49:13 AM(UTC)
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Haha what a bugger! That would annoy ya!


Yes it did when I initially went back but have since discovered that there was a second clue so all good!

The old time miners spent their leisure time in a number of activities, perhaps largely governed by whether they were married or not - if they were not married then there was socialising and if they were married then family matters - but whether they were married or not food had to be put on the table. As the Gold fields became more established with the advent of the big companies and the sluicing and dredging eras individuals and families had more permanent homes with gardens but also supplemented their food with what nature provided.

Many if not most of the miners had a rifle for the express purpose of taking bunnies which were plentiful in those days and a favourite for the pot - this rifle is one which also came form Central Otago - it took specialist ammunition made for this one model and no other and being an expensive rifle at the time was not common and mor elikely to be found in the hands of someone who had a little extra cash and could afford the best - though a little impractical due to ammunition supply. It is a .22 but never took the standard .22 ammunition. The two packets of ammunition on the left are dated April 1915 while the rest of the packets are early but not that old.

It is also the first successful .22 semi Automatic rifle - the Winchester Model 1903. This rifle was in Central Otago at the time when the big dredges were operating so also classify as relics of the Gold Fields. The reason for several packets of ammo there is so that any person who collects these firearms knows I have it and I am always open to negotiation - check the US values though before you make me an offer!...I am also open to exchange for other firearm related material or better still Gold fields collectibles - (Party Political Propaganda Broadcast or is that self promotion?)

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Posted : Monday, 20 February 2012 4:32:25 PM(UTC)
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The last of the .22 rifles which were quite common in Central Otago during the later Goldfield era and were used by Gold miners to obtain rabbits for the family table was the Remington Rolling block - an old design which stretched back many years to the Indian War era, it was popular in many calibres and even used by the military in both the US and in foreign countries though in heavier calibres like 11mm Egyptian.

In New Zealand it was most common in .22 calibre and now and again a .32 might be found.

This particular model, the Model 4 came in both takedown and solid frame - this is a take down model.

Shown with it are some packets of turn of the century ammunition - The Union Metallic Cartridge Company packets are both early and possibly around 1880 but certainly predate 1908, the green Winchester one is early 20th Century and the grey Winchester one about WWI vintage but all Gold fields era ammunition

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Posted : Wednesday, 22 February 2012 9:14:23 PM(UTC)
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Many of the old miners were smokers and evidence of their smoking can often be found throughout the Goldfields. Often fragments of old pipes will turn up and as a kid I often used to go looking for them.

The pipes I have found have all been clay ones though there were other types but I have never found them.

The pipes shown below are all from one hut site and illustrate the diversity of shapes, patterns and markings. The Ben Nevis ones even seem to have subtle differences in the trade name marking.

Some of the pipes are quite elaborate with interesting patterns - the Eagle clawed one is perhaps the best of the lot.

In front of the hut shown in the bottom photograph a dark heap can be seen - this was the ash heap and it was from that heap that all of these pipes came...the lot of them.

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