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Cheers for sending that email nafcd as I was thinking about the idea of starting a petition to give people the right to fossick in any river in NZ (excluding on claim holders claims of coarse), however this would be for non-motorised methods as I believe there would be zero chance of it even getting any positive response from parliament if it included dredge's (sorry guys, no offence intended). I agree with you nafcd about a basic permit and support the idea.

If anyone supports these ideas, please post below. I understand that alot of the golding community are very anti the idea of having more prospectors out there, but just remember that they have just as much right to the hobby as us. So much of New Zealands history was founded because of golding, a right to which should be returned to us kiwis.

Gavin if you read this, could we do a poll on this site for the idea, just so we can guage what sort of support there is from our own prospecting community?

To right gogold if ya want the gold get a claim n own the rights to it not cry theres no free gold , awww lets cry about it n see if the govt gives me some

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I cant afford 1 either but I still done it!! seriously though if you want to make a dollar out of it then you deserve to have to pay the money to get a claim. its been suggested so many times before to get a small group together and set 1 up. you guys have no probs blowing a tank of gas driving to some of these spots but cant throw a few hundy in with fellow fossickers to get your own bit of dirt.

whats wrong with the fossick areas already set up for public?

as I said in my previous post youll have more luck at your local mp office, you will just get a copy paste reply from some secretary at nzpam that wont even know what a sluice or pan is.

i think gogold has hit the nail on the head.

there are lots of public areas already. i go to these myself sometimes. if you know what you're doing and just want to be outdoors there is gold there in small amounts.

the money spent travelling the length of the island to go on group outings would surely cover setting up a group collective to get your own claim. sure it would cost in paperwork to get it done right but it is the same with all these guys that have persevered and got their own working claim.

i really doubt any govt will tie up resources to keep any number of its people happy when it could instead flog off the same asset to any number of foreigners to flog it instead.

i can only imagine what a mess some sites would become if everyone was let loose. just out the road in recent weeks i have seen the mess left behind by weekend warriors. cig butts all over. rocks back in the river. banks messed up. you would start to wonder if they knew how to find gold as it seems they are doing the opposite methods to get it. simply no idea. but that is the problem. everyone has to start somewhere i know. jumping into a claim may not be the way. groups outings may be the way if under some sort of structure. like they have set up in the U.S. but that is back to the same thing. rules. i simply don't think some like any rules and are sure to make a mess of it and stuff it up for everyone else.

nafcd, if you want a claim this first thing i wouldn't say is you don't want to make money out of it. the govt DOES want to make money out of it's limited resources. sure they blow enough of our hard earned money so they are going to want to charge appropriately. the would much rather have someone making them money than not. i know it stinks but just the way it is. just have to grim and bare it and play the game. i know some think things stink nowadays but reading the old books about way back in the rush - there were still rules. enough of them and some sure did stink then too.
good luck with it all. i really think it's time for those into it to band together and actually make some progress at getting a communal area set up. look at what they have done and battled through in the U.S., and learn how the system operates here. a good start would be building a knowledge area of legal stuff and what is really required along with times and cost here in NZ. once all that crap is done you can all get out there and into it.

might put a thread on trademe forums and maybe an add in the fossicking mag here to. doesn't seem to be a lot of takers for shares in a claim on here judging by past attempts. if there is enough interested I will take you up on your offer thanks aotea

Gavin, totally agree, a bad apple can stuff it up.
If half a dozen wanted to set something up, and any new buy a share, and confirm compliance with the consent (which would need to be held by a society or something similar), then it could work.
I dont have a need for it, but if a bunch of dredgers wants a free consultant to do the work for the group, I'm happy to help.
The guts is, there needs to be a quorum of people who give a toss enough to make it happen...
aotea

I did float the idea about a year ago no one seem interested

I do know a claim if 6 went in it would cost about 5000 each plus changeover costs of 3500 total
I played on the claim for a week over Christmas and got about $50 per hour of dredging

its in the nelson area with all consents in place

this could be of interest

http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-536031121.htm

Yes I,m on that note with Gavin.I like going to new places and not burnt out fossicking areas.I hope there is a review of a non commercial permit,and I WILL be writing to them myself.So we,ll be checking up on that.

in case you don't know they done a full review of the minerals regime last year, nothing will change for years now, only thing they done was teir 1 teir 2 in which hobby mining comes under (teir1 I think? ) just means reduced reporting and a few other things but no fee reductions. you guys are dreaming to think theyre gonna give a lil guy a go ive said it all before and your still thick as pig s**t and don't understand. big companys = big dollars lil guy with a sluice means no dollars so why will they let you get something for nothing.

GET A CLAIM AND STOP WHINGINGING IF YOU DONT LIKE IT FIND A NEW HOBBY, Im starting to think weekend fossickers are worse then dole bludgers