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Go-golds full of compliments,also a total hypocrite ,can't afford it but did it anyway,what a joke.Theres nothing wrong with the guys trying to broaden the fossicking areas,nobody's an idiot for trying,you seem to be very defensive,it makes me wonder if perhaps you spent the thousands it must have cost you for your claim on bad ground(the thousands you didn't have?but did it anyway?)maybe a bit more time in the fossicking area might have done you some good.

"in case you don't know they done a full review of the minerals regime last year, nothing will change for years now, only thing they done was teir 1 teir 2 in which hobby mining comes under (teir1 I think? ) just means reduced reporting and a few other things but no fee reductions. you guys are dreaming to think theyre gonna give a lil guy a go ive said it all before and your still thick as pig s**t and don't understand. big companys = big dollars lil guy with a sluice means no dollars so why will they let you get something for nothing.

GET A CLAIM AND STOP WHINGINGING IF YOU DONT LIKE IT FIND A NEW HOBBY, Im starting to think weekend fossickers are worse then dole bludgers"

on the topic of claims and permits is there a size limit on how small a claim can be (like under .5km or smaller)and would it be cheaper? if its a stupid question please don't call me names:)

there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

seriously dude 10 mins on nzpam website and you could find it out yourself. can be as small or as big as you want will still cost the same for the application the only thing that will vary is the annual fees which is a per hectare with a minimum of $511

you need a prospecting or exploration permit to prove that there's gold or any minerals there this is the same on land or rivers there's alot of paper work land reports ,geo tec reports ect all you will have to pay for if thisif it hasnt been done on your patch of land .
each of the permits to find or prove the mineral worth are 3200-3500 thats what ul pay to nzpam just to lodge ur claim , but if your missing info then best you find the same amount of $ again.
once you've proved the ground then you can apply for a mining permit , to have the right to take the minerals you all seam to think that if you hand over 3500 to nzpam you get the green light ..... no sorry not the case .

so please tell me why the guys following the rules should pay for free loaders , be honest we go panning to find gold , why ... because its worth 1600 nz $ an oz so if ur getting colour, own the right to it . nothing in life is free??
Below is the 1st page of the crown minerals act theres not much chance of changing anything unless ur say anadarko or bp or some big company


Duties and restrictions
8Restrictions on prospecting or exploring for, or mining, Crown owned minerals
(1)No person may prospect or explore for, or mine, Crown owned minerals in land unless the person—
(a)is the holder of a permit granted under this Act which authorises the holder to do so, or is authorised to do so by the holder of such a permit in accordance with the permit, or is otherwise authorised to do so under this Act; and
(b)complies with sections 49, 50, 51, 53, and 54.
(2)Subsection (1)(a) does not apply to the taking by any person of—
(a)any Crown owned mineral that—
(i)exists in a natural state in land of which the person is an owner or occupier; and
(ii)is in land which is not the subject of a permit in respect of such mineral—
for use for any reasonable agricultural, pastoral, domestic, roadmaking, or building purpose on land of which the person is an owner or occupier; or
(b)any sand, shingle, or other natural material in the bed of a river or a lake or in the coastal marine area unless otherwise specified in a minerals programme.
(2A)Subsection (1) does not apply to the taking by any person of any Crown owned mineral in a legal road, whether formed, unformed, or stopped, if—
(a)the mineral is—
(i)coal; or
(ii)a mineral (other than coal) for which a Tier 2 permit would, but for this provision, be required; and
(b)the road is within an area of land that otherwise contains privately owned minerals.
(3)Subsection (1) does not prohibit prospecting or exploring for, or mining, gold in a gold fossicking area by means of hand held non-motorised machinery in accordance with section 98 or 98A.
(4)This section applies subject to section 86 of the Ngāti Awa Claims Settlement Act 2005.
Section 8(2A): inserted, on 24 May 2013, by section 15(1) of the Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 14).
Section 8(3): amended, on 24 May 2013, by section 15(2) of the Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 14).
Section 8(4): added, on 25 March 2005, by section 87 of the Ngāti Awa Claims Settlement Act 2005 (2005 No 28).

Edited by user Thursday, 20 February 2014 7:08:45 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hi nafcd

Thanks for the info hope something pans out but if not I would be keen to put in a $1000 towards a claim on the coast some where where I can go use my little sluice box and pan not interested in dredging and such just some where I can go and not steep on any bodies toes I have spent a fair bit of my life on the coast but kept to my self so never meet anybody with a claim I could pan on spent a lot of time at Goldsborough and be it a great spot would be keen on my own area . I be on the coast next couple of weeks to help my mate who just had a back operation so if anybody keen to meet up just pm me would be great .

Stuart

cavey. I would chip in a grand for a sluice and pan only site. all we need now is 5 or 6 more. any takers out there. wouldn't expect a quick decision from a govt. dept. so don't hold your breath on reduced fees but there is a glimmer of hope.