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1864hatter		Posted : Sunday, 28 October 2012 8:11:44 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 4/08/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: Auckland.... Thanks: 49 times Was thanked: 566 time(s) in 269 post(s)		Originally Posted by: fastangler my dear scorpio i just noticed that youve got another 20 or so actions up,i was giving you the benifit of the doubt but youre just taking the piss we are lovers of gold and the outdoors on this forum,we're fossickers not merchants who take pleasure in preying on the dumb and ignorant why sell it in such small amounts when you have plenty of it -greed pure and simple,keep it at .100 and anytime someone bids the price goes up $5 per g shame on you mofo I dont know how you can say this mate, people are free to bid as they wish and its perfectly clear what they are getting. Obivously these people want to invest in small amounts of gold or only have the money to buy small amounts. I cant understand anyone that thinks negatively of this poor guy as he makes it pefrectly clear what is actually for sale. If he was greedy he wouldnt have $1 reserves. The market is what sets the price and obivously the market is prepared to pay what seems like extreme prices but why go and blame the supplier. Jealousy is the only motive i can see behind the negative comments.
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fastangler		Posted : Sunday, 28 October 2012 9:09:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 1/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 37 Location: christchurch Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 9 post(s)		not jealous at all, its an obvious ploy to suck money out of naive people you wouldnt sell your gold in .1g lots hatter because youre better than that "perfectly clear" i dont think it is,thats just my opinion though Edited by user Sunday, 28 October 2012 9:24:19 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

Lammerlaw		Posted : Sunday, 28 October 2012 9:54:27 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Scorpio - scorpion - they sting people - apt maybe?

trigger		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 6:20:43 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 13/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 142 Location: marlborough Thanks: 12 times Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 21 post(s)		hatter you are completly correct

Lammerlaw		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 9:31:19 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: 1864hatter Originally Posted by: fastangler my dear scorpio i just noticed that youve got another 20 or so actions up,i was giving you the benifit of the doubt but youre just taking the piss we are lovers of gold and the outdoors on this forum,we're fossickers not merchants who take pleasure in preying on the dumb and ignorant why sell it in such small amounts when you have plenty of it -greed pure and simple,keep it at .100 and anytime someone bids the price goes up $5 per g shame on you mofo I dont know how you can say this mate, people are free to bid as they wish and its perfectly clear what they are getting. Obivously these people want to invest in small amounts of gold or only have the money to buy small amounts. I cant understand anyone that thinks negatively of this poor guy as he makes it pefrectly clear what is actually for sale. If he was greedy he wouldnt have $1 reserves. The market is what sets the price and obivously the market is prepared to pay what seems like extreme prices but why go and blame the supplier. Jealousy is the only motive i can see behind the negative comments. You are right Matt and it is amusing that people do not do their homework - your statement 'Obivously these people want to invest in small amounts of gold or only have the money to buy small amounts. ' is however flawed because for the 'small amount' they can get three times as more from other sellers on Trademe - so in truth they are not making prudent purchases and not doing their homework. It is not really scorpios fault when indeed he has $1 reserve and there is not really a moral obligation to give the going price of gold and tell the value of the offering but it is really a case of silly sods not doing their homework and then outbidding each other. I have read through scorpios auctions and kept thinking to myself - "Hmm hypnotism through words to catch people out?" - no lies told, $1 reserve - and a whole line of suckers. From my point of view I can see a correlation between what others here are saying about scorpio and themselves - They use a different selling technique and people bid to around the actual gold value and thats where it sells. Scorpio leaves nothing out and yet he does leave something out and people who do not do their homework catch themselves out and get a very bad deal so is that scorpios fault or is it indeed hypnotism through the wording. Sounds silly - careful use of wording can have remarkable affects on the decisions people make. Personally I think that kiwijw had a cheek approaching one of the buyers however to put that buyer wise as he admitted somewhere above - it is not his call and nor was it his business - jealousy as you say Matt - Yes you just might be right.

oroplata		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 10:46:25 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		It's not jealousy as all of us could do the same thing. But we're not prepared to put our reputations on the line by diddling the naive (and mathematically challenged) out of money. Scorpio clearly has no shame. Edited by user Monday, 29 October 2012 10:48:36 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Golddigger7		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 10:51:50 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 6/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 252 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 46 time(s) in 35 post(s)		This is my very last comment on this subject, and everyone is right to some extent or other. Whether ppl pay to much for their gold is their issue and good luck to the seller. After thinking about my previous postings a reviewing the ads, my real concern is really with how part gram's have been written up, and this has probably more to do with our education system etc etc .100 grams should be written 0.100 grams, end of story, otherwise mistakes can be made, and this important in all walks of life. Writing .100 is not proper notation for part unit measurements, a whole number should be placed in front of the decimal point!! to do otherwise can and does lead to mistakes, and this is with respect to any measurements made in any walk of life. Perhaps this is the sellers intent, and perhaps not, and it could simply be the result of poor education. If it was the sellers intent to intentionally be misleading by not placing a whole number before the decimal point to maximise profit by others peoples mistakes, then I do think it is important that this practice is discussed in the forum, as it has been, when that person is also a member of this forum and is asking members for access to other members claims. The discussions and there responses are important so that a person can then assess another persons quality of character prior to letting them jump on any claim. I guess some of you will either support me or throw me to the wolves for my views, but thats what forums are for, but I do not take kindly to abusive comments, so please keep things reasonably intelligent.

fastangler		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 11:29:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 1/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 37 Location: christchurch Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 9 post(s)		i can almost garantee he was not motivated by such charitable thoughts as to give poorer newzealanders a chance to buy gold of their own so what thought process was behind it? you are right golddigger7, i am out of line when i start abusing people.it will be removed and i appoligise to scorpio and all who took offence Edited by user Monday, 29 October 2012 11:41:58 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

Scorpio		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 12:40:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 2/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: Auckland Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 52 time(s) in 29 post(s)		Whats funny is how much offense you guys take to this. Quick couple responses: 1.@fastangler "My thought behind this was supply and demand. ( when i did this THERE WAS NO OTHER GOLD on trade , even since this is got you guys listing more again :) ) Also the demand that people want small amounts of gold they can show there fiends or have as a collectors piece or even to melt down. So yea i thought about some where that's lacking in gold sales and trade me was it and they had no small CONSISTENT people doing auctions for gold. So i got some suppliers and started selling small gold to NZ ( never planned to get more than around $8-10 per .100g) 2 @Golddigger (first time you have mentioned that fact about putting the 0 in front of the point but that could be a good idea actually.) What you guys dont get and is actually funny..... THIS IS HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD DEALS SMALL GOLD. you guys go on about how i put grams and enlarged photo's.... You do reliease this is how all small gold is gold overseas right ? And about me asking to go to peoples claims. Yes you are correct i did ask before i thought about trying this but that was because i wanted to start my own claim and wanted to learn from someone with experience... Nothing wrong with that... However now i think ill just have to teach my self and buy my own (which you can see im also looking into) due to be bad blood on here now. So im not fussed about that just wanted to learn from some experienced kiwi's @ oroplata I dont think your correct sorry. @lammerlaw Thank you for your honesty. As i keep saying let the answer be in the feedback.

fastangler		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 1:20:24 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 1/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 37 Location: christchurch Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 9 post(s)		no bad blood mate just critique,and i am sorry for abusing you earlier. what made us take offence was the way you were laughing at the stupid people buying the gold but i do concede there is a market for it good luck on getting your claim ,no hard feelings mate

oroplata		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 2:35:21 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Scorpio, prove me wrong - instead of describing it as .100g of gold nuggets use 0.1g instead - and maybe put "current melt value at start of auction is $nn, but people often pay over spot price for nuggets". Fastangler, get around here and help me pull the windscreen out of the truck!
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Golddigger7		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 2:42:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 6/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 252 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 46 time(s) in 35 post(s)		Yes Scorpio, I have just noticed that small quantities of gold are sold in the same manner on ebay, infact a seller called gemsale caught my attention there, .....mmmm...I might have to tell him about the 0 before the decimal point two, but think I already have, LOL.

kiwijw		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 6:23:12 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		Hi guys, The only posts that this scorpio chap seems to have made on this forum are posts to defend himself on his trademe auctions. His biggest mistake was putting his hand up convesing they were his when gogold made us aware of these auctions & the smart smug way in which he did it. I am sure he regrets doing that now. He should have just remaind anomynous. I dont see one post from him with any spirit of what this forum is about. Like you touched on fastangler. It is about the common interest that we all share regarding the fossicking for gold. No matter what walk of life we are from. We all generally have a love & respect for the outdoors, the beautiful places it takes us to, the adventures of getting to a gold spot. It is the whole journey of getting there....& back, not just the finding of gold, because as we know, you dont always find gold. But we dont dwell on that. Those that do dont last 5 minutes. It is about the people you meet on the way. That can be gold of a different kind. I have meet & made many "new" friends along the gold path. Some will be life long & that is something money & gold just cant buy. Good luck out there. JW :)

Scorpio		Posted : Monday, 29 October 2012 7:14:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 2/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: Auckland Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 52 time(s) in 29 post(s)		Originally Posted by: kiwijw Hi guys, The only posts that this scorpio chap seems to have made on this forum are posts to defend himself on his trademe auctions. His biggest mistake was putting his hand up convesing they were his when gogold made us aware of these auctions & the smart smug way in which he did it. I am sure he regrets doing that now. He should have just remaind anomynous. I dont see one post from him with any spirit of what this forum is about. Like you touched on fastangler. It is about the common interest that we all share regarding the fossicking for gold. No matter what walk of life we are from. We all generally have a love & respect for the outdoors, the beautiful places it takes us to, the adventures of getting to a gold spot. It is the whole journey of getting there....& back, not just the finding of gold, because as we know, you dont always find gold. But we dont dwell on that. Those that do dont last 5 minutes. It is about the people you meet on the way. That can be gold of a different kind. I have meet & made many "new" friends along the gold path. Some will be life long & that is something money & gold just cant buy. Good luck out there. JW :) 1. Wrong came on here saying what i had done so far looking for gold in Auckland and what things i had tried, Also asked about getting my own claim and learning from someone as i haven't done it before.... ( i Do have spirit for gold but i have been forced to defend my self recently) And i think you should stay out of it jw "you had the disrespect to contact my buyer trying to explain what gold is worth and telling him to give me bad feedback" Your attitude is a great example of what this forum is about.... go and back stab people and try get them to leave negative feedback. 2. You dont know me , You have never meet me or ASKED about me ... plus why dont you trying talking to me instead of "this Scorpio chap" So dont say im not into the outdoors or the adventure. thank you. 3. Yes i did say the auctions are mine... cause i am honest about it... And this is my first post about it dont think im Smug about it .... "Haha yea know whats funny is those are my auctions lol. ;) Im sure they know its .1g. As i have a couple people buying most of it. And some have already got there first lots and are bidding again... so lol.... Put it this way it shocked me... This is what blew me away tonight and it all sold.... " All i said yea funny you posted it cause there mine.. im sure people know its .1g and people have brought the first lots and are bidding again and the fact it shocked me too. Wasn't being smug mate, just shocked in a good mood. (seems be to be you just got jealous or spiteful at it) im happy to talk about gold with everyone here and thats why i first joined... Just its been sidetracked with these auctions.

kiwijw		Posted : Tuesday, 30 October 2012 6:51:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		Hi scorpio, Ok....what ever. I was going to touch on why you give a bonus....maybe you do have a conscience. Any way..... I have had my say & given my thoughts & comments. I will say no more on it. Doesnt do any one any good in the long run. Good luck out there JW

Lammerlaw		Posted : Tuesday, 30 October 2012 9:49:48 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		We all have our quirks and foibles and in lifes journey many have called me a lot of fairly unsavoury things I suppose and I want as much as I can get when I sell my gold as well but the only thing is that I am beginning to get a little older. At the price that scorpio has sold his gold for I have no doubt that last year I gave away a couple or three thousands of dollars worth...seriously! I gave one chap alone five penny weight to take back home to Europe...and every family and individual who came onto my place for a day out got given gold to supplement the little they found including quite a few gram ones. Maybe - just maybe I could put gold onto Trademe in the same manner as scorpio and sell it at prices well over the going price and incur a barrage of negative comments from you guys when it truth I give away more gold than most of you get in a year out or are ever likely to give away yourself! How do you guys know that scorpio is not more generous in many aspects than you fellows are ever likely to be - no one has met him,no one knows the real scorpio - behind the anonymity of computer keyboards hide people who appear far different than they are in real life and the fact that scorpio has sold $1 reserve gold for amazingly high prices is really no indication of the person behind the keyboard and his true nature - he might be the first person to give you a hand out when you are down and out on your luck - funny old world aint it?

creamer		Posted : Tuesday, 30 October 2012 4:45:51 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,022 Location: Bay of Islands Thanks: 2289 times Was thanked: 525 time(s) in 391 post(s)		. He he he. No offence to anyone but this thread sux, anyone second the motion.. Shut your face bee-arches and look at this, GOLD. . Edited by user Tuesday, 30 October 2012 4:59:19 PM(UTC) \| Reason: ...and a diamond.
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creamer		Posted : Tuesday, 30 October 2012 4:56:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,022 Location: Bay of Islands Thanks: 2289 times Was thanked: 525 time(s) in 391 post(s)		He he he. .
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tonznz		Posted : Tuesday, 30 October 2012 10:07:00 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 667 Thanks: 261 times Was thanked: 199 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Scorpio Thank you for the advise :) I am going to do those things next batch :) Just felt like i was being blamed for them paying alot when i thought i had done it all right. Thanks for the advice however now i can make them better :D I joined this forum to talk to others who have a passion for gold not argue with you :) yet your current auctions are still as happily obscure.....so why did you say you were going to make them better and "I am going to do those things next batch" ?

Scorpio		Posted : Tuesday, 30 October 2012 11:12:49 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 2/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: Auckland Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 52 time(s) in 29 post(s)		Simple answer. the camera i have sucks and when i went to take that photo of .100 it wouldnt work. So need a better camera or going to buy a nice new one to do it with. Still wanting to do the photo showing the size, just limited by my crap camera. (thought it would be ok)

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