No one said that you were anti Maori Robert and I am sure that you arent...in fact I find you one of the most pleasant people I know excpeting the fact that we disagree on a few things.
NO the Maori was not lucky to have been colonised by the English - the English have an abysmal history in relationship for Colonial expansion and whereas Hitler attempted total genocide on the Jewish people the fact remains that the English are the only ones to have actually successfully wiped out a peoples in totality - to whit the Aboriginal people of Tasmania! You try telling the lost soul of all those long dead peoples that they were lucky that the English colonised them!
As it was the Maori taught the British more lessons than the British taught the Maoris - a look at the manner in which the Maoris didnt 'play fair' during the Maori wars and engaged in Guerilla warfare most successfully is a lesson that the US of A still hasnt learnt in their invasions of Vietnam, Iraq, Iran and Aphganistan.
If you want to know how quick the Maoris learnt to adapt to new forms of warfare then read page 90m and 91 of 'Frontier' By Peter Maxwell - the entire two pages are lists of the casualties inflicted on the white man by the Maoris - not in a year but in two minutes - 110 casualties in the time I have written these paragraphs - the above refers to the battle of Gate Pa where the Maoris developed Trench warfare to a fine art and on which the British based their static warfare against the Germans during the 1914 - 1918 conflict - trenches, communication tunnels, underground bunkers and bomb proof shelters - first used by the Maori.
You are 100% and totally incorrect when you say that if it had been the other way around and it was the Maoris who invaded the British then the British would all be dead - you are merely perpetuating the myth that the Morioris were all wiped out - the peoples of the Chatham islands called themselves Morioris and the people on the Mainland were Waitaha followed by Rapuwai and Hawea. When the Maori arrived here they found that there were already peoples here and they gave these people the name Tangata Whenua or the 'People of the Land' They actually assimilated these peoples into their ranks and married the women as they found the women of finer features and most desirable and the men were kept to do the menial work and sometimes meat on the hoof - the latter being a behaviour characteristic of Maori toward other Maori tribes in any case. The descendants of these early people live on yet.
Your words - 'As far as government goes there is a huge difference between what elected officials should do, and what they actually do when elected to office. I tend to opperate on what they are going to do, not what they should do beacause the reality is that corruption and abuse are inevitable. Again, you defend the government on the one hand (Postbank) yet it is the same government you are defending who took the loans under the Fractional Reserve system which you despise. Why would you trust them to run one thing when you are so unhappy with the way they are running another?'
you say I defend the Government - at no stage have I defended the Government as you might infer - I said, and to repeat myself 'Postbank used to be State owned and I deal with them - indeed State owned banks were more stable and guaranteed the security of your money.' - This has nothing whatsoever to do with the government borrowing money under the fractional reserve system. The Government banks were guaranteed - FACT! The government borrowing of money under the Fractional Reserve system was an act of criminal lunacy - FACT - the fact is that I am not defending the government but did say that State owned banks were guaranteed and that is NOT defending the government - it is a statement of...fact! On the other hand you can see where the Government has taken us.
I think we should take a poll on this to see who agrees with who - I am beginning to think that you are a CIA plant by the manner in which you seem to defend a system of corruption and evil!
As for the Maoris - a very good friend of mine is Maori - his father was Chancellor of one of New Zealands Universities, His Grandfather a Bishop and his Uncle a Lieutenant Colonel. my father studied law and was one of the heads of the Labour Department and my Uncle was an accountant.
For every down and out Maori there are as many Europeans per capita who are down on their luck as well.
Edited by user Thursday, 13 September 2012 10:05:08 PM(UTC)
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