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skuzzb		Posted : Monday, 5 March 2012 9:01:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		while detecting yesterday in our local park i dug up this old coin,its a 1674,Charles II, Farthing, its hard to work out how it got here as New Zealand was only discovered by europeans in 1642, Dutch explorer Abel Tasman but he didnt stay long,then in 1769, British navigator and explorer Captain James Cook came to New Zealand,so this coin is 348 years old,anybody have ideas on how to clean it, thanks skuzzb attached the following image(s):

mineforgold.co.nz		Posted : Monday, 5 March 2012 9:48:12 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 299 Location: Nelson Thanks: 58 times Was thanked: 38 time(s) in 35 post(s)		Now that is a find. You might want to look at leaving that one to the professionals as it would be a shame to damage it.
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Metal Kiwi		Posted : Monday, 5 March 2012 10:16:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,210 Location: Auckland Thanks: 498 times Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)		Originally Posted by: skuzzb while detecting yesterday in our local park i dug up this old coin,its a 1674,Charles II, Farthing, its hard to work out how it got here as New Zealand was only discovered by europeans in 1642, Dutch explorer Abel Tasman but he didnt stay long,then in 1769, British navigator and explorer Captain James Cook came to New Zealand,so this coin is 348 years old,anybody have ideas on how to clean it, thanks Really excellent find Skuzzb. Yeah how did it get there? I would say don't try and clean it at all at least till you determine whether it is rare or valuable. My guess is both. I wonder who could advise you? Maybe Te Papa or one of the museums. HH Edited by user Monday, 5 March 2012 10:18:01 PM(UTC) \| Reason: spelling
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tonznz		Posted : Monday, 5 March 2012 10:41:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 667 Thanks: 261 times Was thanked: 199 time(s) in 152 post(s)		What a find. It looks pretty good anyway. I have read that bronze or copper coins are very hard to clean. I myself would not touch it. It is the oldest coin I've heard about found in NZ. I've been placing my finds into acid free protective covers, and into albums. It would protect it from handling damage too. It has huge value in that you found it, and it has a story. Check out these covers. I've bought album pages from the same guy, and slotted them into a three holed ringbinder I bought from the warehose stationary. http://www.trademe.co.nz...isting.aspx?id=449490340

Metal Kiwi		Posted : Monday, 5 March 2012 10:45:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,210 Location: Auckland Thanks: 498 times Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)		Well Tasman was in the area but 1674 is after him but before Cook. Curiuos. Found a map here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tasmanroutes.PNG Edited by user Tuesday, 6 March 2012 9:38:27 AM(UTC) \| Reason: dates
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nzpoohbear40		Posted : Monday, 5 March 2012 10:56:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,482 Location: Matura Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 384 time(s) in 329 post(s)		wow that is a fantastic find...would love to find something that old....great going.
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skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 6:18:10 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		i have been detecting for about 2 months with a mate from work,we go to a local park each Saturday and Sunday morning for a few hours,i own a bounty hunter 505 and he has a garrett 250 and we both come away with at least 6 coins each time we go out,lots of pennies,the oldest is 1885 along with silver coins,ww1 silver badge etc,will post more pics soon,guess the point is there are finds out there you just have to stick with it. Dave

creamer		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 7:56:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,022 Location: Bay of Islands Thanks: 2289 times Was thanked: 525 time(s) in 391 post(s)		Well done Skuzzb. That truely is an incredible find. Im a wee bit envious but none the less i congradulate you. I would only clean this coin with water as it is such a rare find. Any form of chemical cleaner would surely damage an old copper type coin. Hopefully there is more of them to be found. Shane Garrett ace 350 Edited by user Tuesday, 6 March 2012 7:57:22 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 9:44:52 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		I hope there is more too,after the few first weeks I almost gave up,found nothing but trash,just perserved and got to know my detector then starting find stuff,finds are out there but you have to be patient

Lammerlaw		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:09:49 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Your coin is a real cracker and I think its one of those sorts of treasures which I would never part with. If it was in really good order it would be quite reasonable value - even in 1997 (my catalogue date) in fine condition only it was worth £20 and in Extremely fine condition was worth £175 back then. In other words its a jolly nice coin to have regardless of its condition.

skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:35:19 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Im still undecided what to do with it,might keep it as it is really old and dont think I could part with it

Metal Kiwi		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:50:46 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,210 Location: Auckland Thanks: 498 times Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)		If it was my find it would be a keeper. Here is a bit more info: Primary Classification: COINS Secondary Classification: Great Britain - England Tertiary Classification: working strikes Series: English DateEra: 1674 AD Denomination: Farthing Obverse Description: Laureate bust of Charles II wearing armour facing left; around, CAROLVS . A . CAROLO Reverse Description: Britannia seated facing left on a globe, extending an olive branch and holding a spear, her left hand rests on a shield decorated with the crosses of St. George and St. Andrew; around, BRITANNIA; in exergue, 1674 Edge Description: Plain Shape: Round Material: Copper Issued By: King Charles II, England, Great Britain, 1674 Mint: Royal Mint, London, London, England, Great Britain, 1674 The Royal Mint was in the Tower of London at this time and is usually referred to as the Tower Mint
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skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 11:13:34 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Thanks for that info Metal Kiwi

chrischch		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 11:22:54 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/08/2011(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 192 times Was thanked: 105 time(s) in 104 post(s)		Now that IS the best coin find i've seen on here....well up there with the "Dump" found in Dunedin.
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skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 12:20:09 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		What Dump in Dunedin,i must have missed something?will post pics of my other finds in this one park later,im amazed at the stuff that it is kicking out and we have hardly covered any ground,will take us years to cover it all

nzpoohbear40		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 6:40:52 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,482 Location: Matura Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 384 time(s) in 329 post(s)		tonznz found an 1813 NSW dump coin that could be worth around 10,000 i think...i have seen the coin personally..it is cool find
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skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:02:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		$10000,wow,now thats a good find.

skuzzb		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:05:02 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 33 Location: wanganui Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		here are some more of my finds,oldest penny is 1885,alot are in a sad state though File Attachment(s): DSCF3888.JPG DSCF3891.JPG skuzzb attached the following image(s):

rgmcbrid		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 9:31:34 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 3/06/2010(UTC) Posts: 583 Location: Southland Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 180 time(s) in 140 post(s)		Wow, that is really something! My thoughts would be that it was mixed in with and used with 'modern' farthings. 160 years ago it would have only been 160 years old and might not have been anything special. I have experimented with cleaning bronze coins which are simmilar to copper and it is basically a waste of time. They have a patina of green crust on them that you can't do much with and if you clean it off you have shinny new pited metal underneath and the coin is ruined. I wouldn't use anything other than soap and water.
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Metal Kiwi		Posted : Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:40:58 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,210 Location: Auckland Thanks: 498 times Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)		Gee wiz your getting some cool stuff. Keep the pics coming. HH
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