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DOC Has Been Busy

mineforgold.co.nz		Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 7:15:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 299 Location: Nelson Thanks: 58 times Was thanked: 38 time(s) in 35 post(s)		Who says DOC never catch illegal gold miners .. well OK they didn't actually catch them. But they did claim their gear. And anyone that stupid deserves to lose their gear I say. http://www.stuff.co.nz/n...illegal-goldmining-sites
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simon		Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 7:43:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 7/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Central Otago Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 239 time(s) in 150 post(s)		you'd think they just busted a multi million dollar drug ring. is the guy documenting the bucket and chicken mesh?! oh for the simpler days of old where man could dream and actually do stuff to live the dream. i wonder what the chicken mesh was used for? perhaps left over from some sideline growing operation? doc probably smoked that if they found it, as they do. i ran into some at new years once, even the big boss was in on it. the guy that collected our fees for camping had a mile wide smile from ear to ear he had smoked so much. was a good laugh at the time but they didn't share.
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 8:56:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		The first thing I thought of was that the Gold mining was a cover for other activities which required a green thumb as evidenced by the chicken mess. In some ways I feel sorry for who ever it is as New Zealand belongs to New Zealanders and we should have the right to be able to have a small claim for a modest fee but often as not a claim is beyond the scope of many people and thus they have to do a bit of poaching on the DOC estate - I bet that if it was Glass Earth or Lime and Marble then the entire area would eventually get torn up and be reinstated' with politically correct trees and things. Hypocrisy rules supreme but for reasons I shall not relate here though the person involved no longer works for DOC but did enjoy Goldmining!

mineforgold.co.nz		Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 9:23:56 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 299 Location: Nelson Thanks: 58 times Was thanked: 38 time(s) in 35 post(s)		I agree with what you say. But I do not have much sympathy for people who set up their claim in the public fossicking area to the extent that they have that much gear they can't take it away with them at the end of the day. There are plenty of other areas people can go poaching if they are that way inclined without destroying the few public areas.
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 9:58:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: mineforgold.co.nz I agree with what you say. But I do not have much sympathy for people who set up their claim in the public fossicking area to the extent that they have that much gear they can't take it away with them at the end of the day. There are plenty of other areas people can go poaching if they are that way inclined without destroying the few public areas. Yes they should leave the public fossicking area alone - I agree with you there entirely. I think that there are hundreds if not thousands of places where a sympathetic Run holder, Station owner or other land owner or occupier will allow a person to go fossick for Gold with a small dredge providing it is low profile and they are decent guys who are prepared to show reciprocal kindness and thoughtfulness. From a Landowner poit of view I dont like users - people who befriend you and try to do favours for you or give you things and try to obligate you and then expect ten times the return - I did have that from one fellow - he asked me if he could harvest or mine if you like to call it that peat as he said he wanted to dry it and sell it for fuel and I said "Yes but when you get down to bedrock I will recover the Gold" - His project never went ahead! He then asked me if he could plant Wasabi on myplace commercially and as long as he had necessary consents I had no problem with that either but said that when he was screening the gravel I would recover the Gold - thats when he lost it...you see there was an ulterior motive - he didnt want the peat nor did he want wasabi - he wanted to unlawfully mine Gold on my place. Those are the types you have to be careful of because a lot of people are users - but theres heaps of decent ones as well and Landowners soon get the cut of a persons sails and for those who are decent I am sure there are heaps of landowners who will give them a spot to play.

mineforgold.co.nz		Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012 10:50:52 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 299 Location: Nelson Thanks: 58 times Was thanked: 38 time(s) in 35 post(s)		We have found plenty of land owners that will let you have a play. Mostly only those that have very little in the way of gold. Most guys that have gold around here have their own operation going on. My friend did get permission to use his dredge on one property, but when they saw he was getting gold he was informed he would be shot if they saw him back. So I guess it swings both ways. Plenty of users out there. Living on the farm here we often get people stopping in wanting to mill our macrocarpa trees. They all think they are the first person to come with the idea of helping us out of the trees. None of them want to pay what the trees are worth, and I would imagine none of them are interested in cleaning up the mess once they have harvested the best of the tree. Or you get people stopping in wanting to help us out of scrap steel. For some reason they think farmers are thick as two short planks and will be easy to put one over. I am sure they get lucky now and then and find people who don't know the worth of stuff. But I am sure if they cared to come with a win win plan they would get a much better response and not make life that much harder for the genuine people who come after them.
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Karl McDowell		Posted : Saturday, 11 February 2012 8:01:32 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 11/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Auckland Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 39 time(s) in 29 post(s)		Fair enough take your chances 'fossicking' outside the designated fossicking areas, but I'm afraid I don't have any sympathy for people who get caught scalping the fossicking areas with dredges. DOC might have their faults but I have no issue with them keeping the fossicking areas free of inconsiderate bastards. Edited by user Saturday, 11 February 2012 8:05:01 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

overdog		Posted : Tuesday, 21 February 2012 5:31:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: nelson Thanks: 69 times Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)		Just to add fuel to the great dredging debate-went for a recce up the Pearse and Graham rivers today.Somebody has had a dredge in the Graham-bloody great holes in the river and big tailings piles for about 200 metres.Well out of sight and sound of the road and any properties up there so no biggie. What is a big deal is the pair of clowns I came across with a 5 or 6 incher in the Pearse-I had just come down from further upstream and passed a parked up DOC truck.Went down to these guys in the river to tip them the wink about the green menace and basically got told to go away and mind my own,only not as polite as that. Was in 2 minds wether to dob them in (decided against it) but I kinda hope they got busted-only trying to do them a favour... Some people just cant see past their own nozzle I guess.

gogold		Posted : Tuesday, 21 February 2012 5:41:23 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: gore Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 56 time(s) in 45 post(s)		Originally Posted by: overdog Just to add fuel to the great dredging debate-went for a recce up the Pearse and Graham rivers today.Somebody has had a dredge in the Graham-bloody great holes in the river and big tailings piles for about 200 metres.Well out of sight and sound of the road and any properties up there so no biggie. What is a big deal is the pair of clowns I came across with a 5 or 6 incher in the Pearse-I had just come down from further upstream and passed a parked up DOC truck.Went down to these guys in the river to tip them the wink about the green menace and basically got told to go away and mind my own,only not as polite as that. Was in 2 minds wether to dob them in (decided against it) but I kinda hope they got busted-only trying to do them a favour... Some people just cant see past their own nozzle I guess. its stupid idiots like this that make dredgers look bad when im breging i always take a shovel and level out the tailing piles at the end of the day takes 5 minutes and looks better then littles islands everywhere. F&G and doc see this and just makes it that much harder to get consents for the responsible and LEGAL dredgers out there.

kiwijw		Posted : Tuesday, 21 February 2012 6:02:46 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		Originally Posted by: overdog Just to add fuel to the great dredging debate-went for a recce up the Pearse and Graham rivers today.Somebody has had a dredge in the Graham-bloody great holes in the river and big tailings piles for about 200 metres.Well out of sight and sound of the road and any properties up there so no biggie. What is a big deal is the pair of clowns I came across with a 5 or 6 incher in the Pearse-I had just come down from further upstream and passed a parked up DOC truck.Went down to these guys in the river to tip them the wink about the green menace and basically got told to go away and mind my own,only not as polite as that. Was in 2 minds wether to dob them in (decided against it) but I kinda hope they got busted-only trying to do them a favour... Some people just cant see past their own nozzle I guess. What are the chances that they were the DOC guys?????? That wouldnt suprise me. JW :) Edited by user Tuesday, 21 February 2012 6:03:51 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

overdog		Posted : Tuesday, 21 February 2012 6:54:03 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: nelson Thanks: 69 times Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)		Hi John-that thought had ocurred to me but the truck was parked about 2 k upriver and there was a white Isuzu just opposite where the dredge was... Good effort down south btw (",)