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Sufferin succotash I know what you mean there Simon,some are good folks but others are real rude buggers that you feel like strangling!

What I dislike about some tourists is getting behind them on the road.Some of them think the town speed limit extends

out to the open road and that the mile long convoy behind them is like one happy family.

Then they think it's alright to look at the scenery while driving on the other side of the road!

Be heading up your neck of the woods next month,hope the bloody tourists have left some colour for me to find!

Love this topic Simon for about 204 different reasons!

Tourists in cars - Ever heard of Karma - sometimes Karma is bloody unfair. Around Merton North of Dunedin theres a camper with tourists - pondering, admiring and perving at the scenery like little brown Monkeys - all this while driving with the right hand wheels more or less just short of, on or over the white line at the speed of between 70 and 80 kph.

I followed them - and followed them - and followed them - I couldnt get past - they didnt pull over - mile after mile - Waikouaiti River - Waikouaiti - Flag Swamp - Palmerston - Shag Point...and finally just north of Shag point they slow right down then turn to the right off the road and into a layby

I pulled as close as I could to the left hand side of their van, slammed my hand down on the horn, pushed down the electric (I hate them) window and poked my other hand out and gave them the fingers while yelling their pedigrees - all these things at once - Who said males cant multi task.

God in his infinite wisdom decided to punish ME and not them - my blasted window came right off its carrier and crashed down into the bottom of the door well - I was driving to Waimate and it was a cold day!

The gold situation - It is a sad situation but Simon as you know they did have their legal right - you could have perhaps approached them with some excuse and tried your luck at getting them to move one way or another - maybe a nice explanation and request could have done it.

It does demonstrate the need for a mining lobby group of hobby miners to be formed to push this government into making better provisions for us - a reintroduction of the Miners Right and the opening of Crown lands for fossicking on a limited scale...perhaps by hand means. This would mean a great deal of land would legally be available for fossicking and your scope would be widened considerably. It also means that the current fossicking areas would only be needed by thosew ho didnt want to get the Miners Right but wanted to have a go in passing so they could remain as they are now.

My suggestion to you Simon and I am sure that you have thought of it is to talk to farmers and land owners and many will give you permission for a play on their properties. If you are into Bunny massacring then they will generally give you permission for that as well! At the same time you can be of assistance to them - phone when you are going there to ask if theres anything they need picked up and delivered or a gift of vegetables from the garden and so on - as you will know reciprocation does go a long way.

Interesting topics raised. Lammerlaw your on the money with the reintroduction of the Miners Right with the retention of the Public fossicking areas. A lobby group is the way to start and there are possibly enough interested folk on this forum. My only concern is that with gold for some comes greed. I never saw the conditions laid out for the Miners Right but industirous kiwis can soon turn hand tools/sluice box into a 6" dredge.

Come on Overdog, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! ;)

I travel about 50-60,000km per year, and the number of times I wished I had a gun.......
Cheers
Skiwi

I like that Keith - personally I mentally blast them with the fictitious bazooka thats hidden under the bonnet so that they disappear complete off the road with a big bang and cloud of smoke!

I also like the pass perilously close trick to scare the living daylights out of them.

A few years ago now some Asian was reported for driving dangerously at Waitati going onto the motorway. Apparently they upset several drivers and the police waited down the Dunedin end and stopped them. One of the following drivers also stopped, got out, and planted the errant driver for having driven dangerously and putting his family at risk as well as the other road users. The other poor sod was then charged with assault - there aint no legal allowance for poetic justice in this country.

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Well petesw I am not so sure how to take that - very few holes I want to dig in and not for gold either.

New Zealand did bloody well for years without tourists thank you very much and could do so again but this younger generation has no ideas about the economy and this country prior becoming the 'Welfare State' then Globalisation and the manipulation of the holders of the debt, the foreign bankers.

We do not need tourists but rather we need to develop a self sustaining attitude whereby we produce all our own goods and produce and keep the finances cycling within our own economy - foreign trade kept to a minimum with the balance in our favour so that the tourism industries input would not be the necessity it is now.

As far as I am concerned many of these people should NOT be on our roads at all for two reasons - 1) their driving habits - we have enough bad kiwi drivers as it is 2) lack of hygiene or is it coincidence that the rise in foreign freedom campers has also seen a rise in the crap off to the side of the parking spots with particular reference to one between Nelson and Picton where I saw two little foreign cretins go off into the shrubbery on the side of the road openly holding toilet roll then come out after making deposits in the bushes.

So it isnt a matter of this country going bankrupt because it is bankrupt...and tourism isnt the 'B'' all and end all of everything - there are other ways to develop an even richer economy - stop importing goods we can produce here - sheep! (meat and wool - bye bye Australia) Pork (bye bye China) Wheat and Barley (bye bye Australia again) - only import what we cannot produce! AND call an end to ALL gold going offshore - that is also largely being stolen from us - keep it as a prop to our own economy.

You are right however when you say that it is not just tourists digging in the holes we dig for gold - Kiwis are good at it - its only Kiwis I have found digging on my property - no tourists. I can imagine that in areas frequented by tourists that they could well be a problem though for guys who want to quietly and methodically work their own wee spot of Kiwiland.

The truth and reason is that this country is owned by the receivers - the receivers are the international bankers or at least a selection of the 200 or so families who own the Western world banking system - the ones who loaned the fools who governed NZ in the 1950s money to become 'The Welfare State' - under a criminal and corrupt system called Fractional Reserve Banking - we are to all intents and purposes bankrupt - 'they' own us - they dictate terms to their puppets - our elected government - those we elected to represent our interests but who in truth never make decisions in the interests of the populace as a whole...in fact your rights and interests are being eroded.

These criminals who loaned us money are the ones who are stealing our mineral wealth and WE the fools who own this coultry allow it to happen, mostly convuinced that it is good for the country because we get many benefits out of it - so what are the benefits - limited employment with is peanuts, contracts - for thelucky few, 1% or 2% royalty and who gets the gold from, for example Macraes - I understand that 99% of it goes to the Rothschilds - hello hello does that ring a bell - Rothschilds - banking - Bank of England, Reserve Bank - who owns our debt - the Bankers -reserve bank?

Throw the politicians out - tell the International bankers where to go as their debt has already been paid off many times over - make New Zealand owner operated and with the profit to the owner...we could do it.

For sure!

I think it's time the tourist bashing stopped. Most tourists are pretty good and yes some let themselves down. But they still spend a lot of money in NZ and a lot of people in New Zealand work in the tourism industry (one in 20 of the population) and provides $15 BILLION to OUR economy. Lets get back to talking gold fossicking and detecting. yes I know, I could just not read the poisonous ranting by some and just read the positive stuff that is put out, but I don't want people getting the wrong idea about why we are here.

I enjoy my hobby, and that is all it is to me and thanks to Gavin for providing us with this awesome setting.

YOU may think it is time that the tourist bashing stops but I guess that what you think and what others may wish to say might be two different things. if you dont like it then why go into the thread?

I think its a bloody shame that a tiny minority of tourists spoil it for others - my gripe being lack of hygiene and driving habits of some...the former to a certain extent because camper van hire firms hire out vans without toilet facilities. The vaste majority of tourists are great to meet, to yarn to and associate with but there are exceptions.

Why are we here - for every member theres a reason and if a topic begins with a dig at a tourist and others take the topic through its twists and turns with their individual thoughts then if you dont like it why go there? Arent you ranting about how good they are to our economy and how much money they put into it - that has got nothing to do with gold mining so its just as unrelated as those you point the finger at...see how we all twist and turn these threads...you included?

have a great day tomorrow kiwisouth...its nearly tomorrow now...this blasted rain will be up your way for the weekend as though you guys havent had enough...as for me - I am off gold mining.

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