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Metal Kiwi  
Posted : Monday, 23 January 2012 10:16:33 PM(UTC)
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I have a set of Gold scales that were my Grandfathers and
I have been playing around with the weight of a gold ring.

The ring seems to weigh 5 pennyweight plus a 4 and a 3 but I dont know
what the 4 and 3 represent. Is it just 5.7 pennyweight? Any ideas people?

My new digital scales should be here soon but in the meantime ......

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goldnugget  
Posted : Monday, 23 January 2012 10:36:07 PM(UTC)
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Posted : Monday, 23 January 2012 10:41:25 PM(UTC)
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Ok, try again. 4 plus 3 = 7 grains (gr) NOT to be confused with grams (gm) Believe it or not there has been an ebay scam/con using gr and people assumimg gm. Anyhow you have roughly 5dwt plus 7/480 of an ounce.
There's roughly 1.5gms to a pennyweight. Hope this helps.

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Metal Kiwi  
Posted : Monday, 23 January 2012 10:48:18 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Rick. Yes grains of course.
I can calculate that now.
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Posted : Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:38:13 AM(UTC)
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The 4 and a 3 are grains - 24 grains equals one penny weight - 20 penny weight equals a troy ounce - 12 troy ounces equals a troy pound.
You have 5 penny weight plus a little over another 1/4 penny weight

As the man said there are 480 grains in an ounce so you have 127/480ths of an ounce - a really nice heavy ring.

Wouldlike to see a photo of the full set of scales - what typoe are they? I asusme you have the box as you have the weights - well at least a 5 pennyweightone and a 4 grain one and a 3 grain one!

If they are Avery are they the later Avery as in W&T Avery or are they the old label W&T Avery Late T Beach

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Skiwi  
Posted : Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:08:21 AM(UTC)
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Whats is the most common unit for measuring the amounts of gold we are likely/hopeful of finding using manual techniques?
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Posted : Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:49:41 PM(UTC)
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I think the most common unit nowadays is the gram, however the Troy ounce is the recognised medium size: 31.1gms (don't I just wish!!) If even larger, then I think it generally reverts back to the metric system i.e. kilograms.
Some of us (durst I say 'oldtimers') still like the romance of the old system, however. I have been known to collect the occasional old scale, and to me nothing looks nicer than the combination of richly coloured wood, and the glow of the brass scales and weights. (Apart from the additional gleam of the 'huge' nuggets resting thereon - as seen through a 10 power magnifying glass!!

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Rick.