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Posted : Friday, 2 December 2011 8:51:41 PM(UTC)
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Thought I'd post some photos (if I work out how) and info that I researched on the Crow River in the Nelson Wilderness area.

Be interested to know if any of you guys have been out that way or know where the original diggings were.

Be warned that if you head out into this area, you need sufficent bush/tramping skills to keep yourself safe or carry a locator beacon, its a long way from safety.

I have a dairy somewhere but its awol at the moment so will try and remember this out of my head.

There were two ways to reach the Crow River diggings, one way by travelling up the Baton River, over the mountains and into the Crow. I have not attempted this as its very high over those mountains and do not think there would be much of a track there these days. It was said that a man by the name of French Joe dug in the Crow River, and tried to get back there in later years but his knees gave out under the weight of his swag when walking up the Baton.

The way I have travelled to the Crow is by Helicopter, 20min flight but around $1200, and by foot.

By foot you need to head to the start of the Wangapeka Track. There is a car park there and the track is used by plenty of trampers. The Wangapeka was constructed as a gold mining track by the old timers to reach the West Coast and wilderness areas like the Crow and Roaring Lion Rivers. Its around three hours walk in from the car park to Kiwi Stream crossing. Another 20mins continuation on the Wangapeka track will take you to Kings Hut and a Doc Hut, King dug for gold in the Wangapeka and also up Kiwi Stream.

To get to the Crow you need to cross Kiwi Stream and head up the track towards Kiwi Saddle Hut. Its another three hours walk uphill all the way to Kiwi Saddle. There are a few streams on the way in which you can top up with water for the hike up. I have found that there has been no water at Kiwi Saddle Hutt and have had to continue down the track to Taylor Stream.

The Taylor Stream track has not been serviced by DOC since about 2003/04 so there are a few fallen trees over the track. There are still a few track markers on the way and a few put up by other trampers. Takes around 20-30mins to walk down from Kiwi Saddle to the Taylor Stream.

To be continued....

Attached photo is the crossing at Kiwi Stream.

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Posted : Friday, 2 December 2011 9:17:33 PM(UTC)
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The track next to Taylor Stream was constructed as a pack track around 1900. Diggers were busy digging in the Taylor and Hambone Stream (a little further on).

Tony Nolan mentions this area in several of his books.

Spoke to a guy a couple of years ago and he told me he walked to this area in 1946. Evidence of King digging in the hills above Kiwi Stream was still there and he stated that he must have been getting gold as King did a lot of work there.

He also told me that he and a mate sat down near Taylor Stream and counted a mob of 200 deer on the face opposite! Great hunting back in 1946!


Back to the 2000s... Down on the track next to Taylor Stream you will find several square holes (in the middle of the track and you have to walk over them) where it looks like the old timers dug some exploritory holes.

If you continue on a little longer and also look on your map, the track crosses Taylor Stream. Right after that crossing there has been a big fall in the forest. The track here cuts straight up the hillside and above the fall. Dont attempt to cross these tree falls yourselves, they end up being a lot longer to cross than going high. Also the tree falls (beech trees) are full of wasps and wasp nests. Dont make the same mistake as me and get to close to these nests and end up running through the bush being chased and stung by those yellow and black bastards.

Here the track on the map stops.

Anyway its getting dark out and im heading out to dispatch some possums....

Attached is a photo of Kiwi Saddle Hut, and two photos of the crossing of Taylor Stream.
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Posted : Sunday, 4 December 2011 10:24:23 PM(UTC)
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Actually looking at the permits map on this website the track does not end here. My topo map does but its nice to see the old track still there on this websites map.

If I recall it took me around 5 hours to walk beside Taylor Stream to where it crosses Taylor Stream on the map again. The track has really only been kept open by animals and the odd tramper so its a bit rough in places and requires a bit of bush bashing.

This second crossing of the Taylor from left to right opens onto a small flat campsite which must have been used by the workers cutting the track many years ago. It looks well established and looks to have been used over the years. At this point on the map you can see that the track crosses a small saddle which is only about 80-100m high and you are straight down into the Crow River.

I remember walking on an angle down to the river from this saddle and coming across some unusual large and deep "ruts" in the hillside on the way down to the river. This is a possible point of the "old diggings"but im not 100% sure. I regret not stopping to take a look on the way through but was on too much of a mission to get to the Crow River its self and never found them again on the way out.

Anyway I found some colour in the river at this point but not much.

Have also travelled by helicopter to the Crow and was put down 2km upriver from the Crow Hut on the Karemea Track/river. Found colour at this point too and the following photos will show this area of the river and what it looks like. Also here is some great trout fishing, big browns and worth taking your fishing rod. Also the odd goat wanders around and I shot 4 while I was there last.

As a last note, I understand that the gold in the Crow River and also Roaring Lion River were located on terraces above the river. Heard of a guy who spent a week in the Roaring Lion looking for gold before he discovered it on a terrace above the river on the last day he was there. And the Roaring Lion is a looooong way into the wilderness so only the most dedicated should head there.

So if you get a chance, and want to take a look at some great country loaded with minerals, the Crow is a place to go. Just be prepared for the walk out there.

And a warning about the SANDFLIES there..... they are the worst I have ever come across. You have to keep all flesh covered (I use those skins sports compression clothing) or use a tube of the bushmans frind you get at tramping shops - nothing else is strong enough. There were so many sandflies on me I wouldnt bother attempt to kill any unless I got 30-40 a swipe at a time, there are that many of them.

First photo shows a trout in the river, rest are photos of the river taken at various points 2km from the mouth and beyond.

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Posted : Monday, 5 December 2011 1:27:21 PM(UTC)
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That's all really interesting stuff.
I will never do it as I don't have the skills but it is good
to read first hand what others are doing. You can keep the wasps though :-)

In the last image DSCN3110.JPG there is green stuff in the
rocks in the foreground by the water. Would that be silica or similar?

Chris.
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Posted : Monday, 5 December 2011 6:31:22 PM(UTC)
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Hi there bittenbythebug, Welcome to the forum. That is a great bit of info & thanks for taking the time to post all that. Yes a very interesting area & Tony nolan does mention the area quite a bit in his writtings. Would take more than ones life time to search it all, that is for sure. The remoteness being a very good advantage to make some good finds, even today. You would need some very kind weather & it looks like you had a bit of that going by your photo's. Thanks again for sharing.
Do you still get out searching for the yellow??

Regards

JW :)
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Posted : Monday, 5 December 2011 7:35:30 PM(UTC)
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Hey metal kiwi, good spotting. You would probably be right, never noticed at the time, lots of unusual rocks and such out that way, the old glaciers did a bit of work on the area 0000s of years ago.

JW, yeah mate, looking to head south next week, weather dependant to have a fossick around. Got a spot I need to take a look at. Usually go 1-2 times a year to find colour, not bacause of its value or anything but because its there and its hard to find. My little bottle of gold is worth a bit to me in blood, sweat and tears!

Might chuck some other photos up if I can dig some out.

I have a small Keene sluice which I got from the states a few years ago which has had a bit of use, great items.

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Posted : Monday, 5 December 2011 9:31:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bittenbythebug Go to Quoted Post
Usually go 1-2 times a year to find colour, not bacause of its value or anything but because its there and its hard to find. My little bottle of gold is worth a bit to me in blood, sweat and tears!

Might chuck some other photos up if I can dig some out.

I have a small Keene sluice which I got from the states a few years ago which has had a bit of use, great items.


G'day bbtb, Yes I know what you mean about it not being because of its value. It takes you to some beautiful places & makes you really appreciate the great outdoors. I would have spent FAR more in petrol & travel just getting to places & back. It is the whole journey & not just the getting of gold (if youre lucky)
You meet some great like minded people, some which become life long friends. Gold of a different kind.
It is fun making & using your own gear & that teaches you what works & what doesnt. What works ok & what works better.
Be nice to see some of your photo's.

Good luck out there & happy hunting

JW :)
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Posted : Monday, 5 December 2011 10:41:40 PM(UTC)
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Just a couple of more photos, first one at the bridge over the Crow River at its mouth with the Karamea River, the second is looking up the Karamea River.
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Posted : Thursday, 8 December 2011 8:52:04 PM(UTC)
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Awesome, thanks for sharing your experiences, I can only imagine being that remote - good stuff bittenbythebug!
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Posted : Tuesday, 13 December 2011 8:04:25 PM(UTC)
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a few years ago a mate and i did a walk
started at flora saddle over to balloon hut for the first night
next day down the leslie river to the karamea river on the way we stopped and panned in the crow river as i recall we got quite a nice lot of gold
the rest of the trip we went up the karamea over into the wangapecka track and down to matarki doing a little panning along the way but the best was in the crow
the area is full of gold but the access is very differcult always thought it might be worth a trip in a chopper but one would be poaching which in turn puts it on to the chopper for lifting gear in there
to far for me to walk these days
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Posted : Monday, 10 September 2012 11:25:48 PM(UTC)
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Posted : Wednesday, 12 September 2012 8:00:31 AM(UTC)
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Hi, have you had a look at Hambone Creek also?
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