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Gold_Striker  
Posted : Tuesday, 19 October 2010 12:20:05 AM(UTC)
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great tips guys thanks for the info. I am in the USA so I told my friends about this forum \o/
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Posted : Saturday, 18 December 2010 5:22:45 AM(UTC)
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i have noticed alot of mounds of car window glass in the 12 mile creek car park, propbably not the best place to visit.
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Posted : Tuesday, 21 December 2010 2:25:04 PM(UTC)
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starflash wrote:
i have noticed alot of mounds of car window glass in the 12 mile creek car park, propbably not the best place to visit.

Hi starflash, where abouts is 12 mile creek? Is that in the upper South Island area?
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Posted : Tuesday, 21 December 2010 4:08:33 PM(UTC)
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Posted : Tuesday, 21 December 2010 4:43:19 PM(UTC)
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gavin wrote:

Thanks Gavin. Bloody boguns smashing in windows. I might pre-emptively "trash" my campervan before heading South.... that way the idiots might think nothing of value would be inside.... there wouldn't be anyway because anything yellow will be staying on my person 24/7 ...lol

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Posted : Wednesday, 22 December 2010 1:14:16 AM(UTC)
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Such a shame that we need to worry about the car when wandering in to the bush :( Not had any incidents myself yet, but heard enough stories to make me wary.
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Posted : Thursday, 23 December 2010 4:14:06 AM(UTC)
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yep 12 mile creek in queenie, i have a locked lid to my ute so no one can look in and see what i have. if parking up leave the glove box open and empty, so the opportunists can see there is nothing worth taking. thats what living in auckland has taught me.

roman holiday its not what your ride looks like, its what they can see inside it, the buggers are generally just kids looking out for a smash and grab opportunity.

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roman holiday  
Posted : Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:20:20 AM(UTC)
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starflash wrote:
yep 12 mile creek in queenie, i have a locked lid to my ute so no one can look in and see what i have. if parking up leave the glove box open and empty, so the opportunists can see there is nothing worth taking. thats what living in auckland has taught me.

roman holiday its not what your ride looks like, its what they can see inside it, the buggers are generally just kids looking out for a smash and grab opportunity.


Some good points there starflash. Another thing might be to avoid parking in the more obvious touristy spots. I'm hoping to buy a camper which doubles as a 4WD drive... that way I'd be able to get off the beaten track a bit more, and leave my vehicle for the day in a more isolated spot.



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Posted : Thursday, 20 January 2011 2:47:26 PM(UTC)
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Hello people.
I may have mentioned this tip earlier?
It concerns having a hot drink (cup of tea/coffee/soup/or a can of baked beans etc) whilst out in the bush and away from your main camp.

You’ve all seen those fire lighters in your supermarket haven’t you?
Well consider carrying a couple of these with you in a plastic bag.
“Budget” brand are quite good as they are like a treated cardboard, and don’t tend to disintegrate in your pack, or stink it out!
Any brand of firelighters will work, but some smoke like hell, and really discolor your container, and taint your drink unless its covered by a lid of sorts.

You can buy proper little realsmall fire lighters from a camping/sporting store if you want, and they have a tiny stove to burn them in. Small and lightweight too.

Carry your coffee/ tea bags or whatever with you too, and add water when needed,(there’s usually water available close by. If not, carry a small bottle of it with you.)
O.K. To use these to heat something up, you make a little circle of say 50 mil sized rocks that you can comfortably sit your containers base on, stick a couple of firelighters under it, (of course you light one of them first!!!) and have your boil-up brew.

These firelighters are ideal for starting the main campfire too, if the woods a bit damp.

Give it some thought!

Cheers---Colin.
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Posted : Thursday, 20 January 2011 3:16:13 PM(UTC)
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Thats a good idea colin iv got a bit of a tip as well when your headn into the hills for a day or 2 and you really stuff your gear into a small pack along with a lighter especially those bic 1,s all the gas can leak out along the way so to fix this get a docking ring ya no the ones that you put on...lamb nutt,s & tails...and strerch it around the lighter and under the thumb tab and hey presto problum solved!

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Posted : Thursday, 20 January 2011 4:40:43 PM(UTC)
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Are there any rules of thumb that people follow about drinking stream water. I'm thinking if the stream is up in national park areas away from farms it should be safe to drink [even unboiled]... and that lower streams surronded by farms might need boiling in order to avoid gardia etc [I'm assuming boiling will sterilize any nasties?]

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Posted : Thursday, 20 January 2011 5:11:19 PM(UTC)
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Yer roman holiday, my rules of thumb are,
If the dog can drink it so can i.
If its flowing well, its got to be good.
If its got gardia in it, my bowels will get a good clean out!!!

Yer boil for 15mins will kill E.Coli and gardia.
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Posted : Thursday, 20 January 2011 5:17:40 PM(UTC)
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Yer roman holiday, my rules of thumb are,
If the dog can drink it so can i.
If its flowing well, its got to be good.
If its got gardia in it, my bowels will get a good clean out!!!

Yer boil for 15mins will kill E.Coli and gardia.

Thanks temp... didn't realise you needed to boil the water quite that long.
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Posted : Thursday, 20 January 2011 5:44:45 PM(UTC)
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Just did a web surf and seen sum say 3mins yet sum say 5mins.
After canterburry earthquack, had a flyer in the mail box that siad 15mins that was due to a very high e coli level.
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Posted : Friday, 21 January 2011 6:16:27 AM(UTC)
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Yer roman holiday, my rules of thumb are,
If the dog can drink it so can i.
If its flowing well, its got to be good.
If its got gardia in it, my bowels will get a good clean out!!!

Yer boil for 15mins will kill E.Coli and gardia.


Just bare in mind 1080 poison is used in many areas throughout NZ and can make you quite ill if there are large concentrations of it in streams where drops have occurred recently.
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Posted : Friday, 21 January 2011 12:37:20 PM(UTC)
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Good to point out, didnt think of 1080.
That comes under "if the dog can drink it" as theres no way in hell i'll go were a recent rain of pain(1080)has occurred.
also with 1080 i'am not keen to eat wildlife around drop zone's.

1080 KILLING N.Z SLOWLY

Karl McDowell  
Posted : Friday, 21 January 2011 1:43:06 PM(UTC)
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I've hunted, fished, fossicked and drank the water in catchments where 1080 has been used for years and never had any problems. I would have absolute confidence in drinking water from a stream where 1080 has been used. Do the math - an open water supply (i.e. the water is flowing rather than static) would need to have literally thousands of kgs of 1080 dumped in it to be accumulate the lethal dose necessary to harm a human.

Granted you DO have to be careful when taking dogs into 1080 areas but only because dogs are very susceptible to ingesting uneaten baits and secondary poisoning from scavenging carcasses if they're not under control, but honestly how hard can it be to follow the simple rules and precautions stated on signs at entry points? I go duck shooting with three mates each year and two years running the council has done a 1080 job in the catchment that drains into the swamp we shoot. Between us we have five dogs and we've never had any kind of problem.

In terms of drinking water from streams in the bush - I would be more cautious due to the very real possibility of giardia in some areas. I've had it on two ocassions (possibly three but not diagnosed the thrid time) and I certainly wouldn't care to have it again.
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2011 12:27:47 PM(UTC)
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If you ever have occasion to shelter from a severe storm, or a lightning storm when your out in the bush, and do so by seeking refuge in an old mine tunnel that has parts of a quartz reef exposed running along the side, (generally in the ceiling).

And only do this, if you feel that its safe to do so.: Go further into the tunnel and turn off your light.
(It will be really “Pitch Black”)
Let your eyes become accustomed to this darkness, then observe the area where you think the reef is.
If your lucks in, and the lightning etc is flashing outside, you will see “Scintillating” flashes of flickering little lights traveling along the quartz reef in the direction of its strike (pathway) as the Electro Magnetic pulse is conducted along the reef.

Its really fascinating to see this occurrence happening.
But as I said you need to be lucky.

Cheers---Colin.





WOW. yeah this would be fantastic
gingerbreadman  
Posted : Monday, 14 February 2011 2:30:12 PM(UTC)
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Karl McDowell wrote:
I've hunted, fished, fossicked and drank the water in catchments where 1080 has been used for years and never had any problems. I would have absolute confidence in drinking water from a stream where 1080 has been used. Do the math - an open water supply (i.e. the water is flowing rather than static) would need to have literally thousands of kgs of 1080 dumped in it to be accumulate the lethal dose necessary to harm a human.

Granted you DO have to be careful when taking dogs into 1080 areas but only because dogs are very susceptible to ingesting uneaten baits and secondary poisoning from scavenging carcasses if they're not under control, but honestly how hard can it be to follow the simple rules and precautions stated on signs at entry points? I go duck shooting with three mates each year and two years running the council has done a 1080 job in the catchment that drains into the swamp we shoot. Between us we have five dogs and we've never had any kind of problem.

In terms of drinking water from streams in the bush - I would be more cautious due to the very real possibility of giardia in some areas. I've had it on two ocassions (possibly three but not diagnosed the thrid time) and I certainly wouldn't care to have it again.

Hi karl
if it,s so safe why are all the wild game depo,s shut up these days..?? and id like to point out that doc are can be idiots i rember 2 years ago they droped a heap of 1080 around marlbrough that was supposed to go to the west coast so that stuff took twice as long to break down because it had weather proof stuff onit.
iv had a dog poisond and a few of my mate,s have to...well after the specified time frame even farmers have lost dogs,cattle to the stuff i would say to you that if you spent enuf time around those areas with your dogs even after the time frame doc tell you youl have a poisond dog just a matter of time..those opossums can mummyfie especially in dry areas.
doc are now testing the stuff at stuart island spraying it onto leaves to kill deer.
im not a fan of the stuff at all...
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2011 3:04:46 PM(UTC)
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Just my 2 cents worth.
I do a fair bit of hunting and have seen the damage that 1080 does to native birds peoples dogs and stock its about time we ban it . Enough said by me . Gold is what i love just need to get out a bit more lol.

Rock on. cavey.
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