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Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 4:42:52 PM(UTC)
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I love old history books and buying local books and recently read a passage in one and am now excited and planning some mis-adventures to these more local area's for me...

"The discovery of gold in payable quantities was first reported on 22nd Aug 1866. It had been found in the Mckenzie country, 9 miles from the junction on the Ohau and Tekapo rivers, and up the Waihao Valley. Gold was also found west of Mouth Four Peaks on 7th April 1869 , in the Upper Opuha, behind Mt Fox 12th May 1869, and at the orari gorge for which the Government reward was claimed on 25th Aug 1869."

"On 4th november 1869 650 acres were reserved to cover a supposed quartz reef west of the north branch of the Waihao river. Poor returns caused the prospectors to cease on 27th June 1870"


There is more to this Waihao river story too (1874, 1875, 1881) but its too much to write lol....any one out there know more about this or these stories?

Dan
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Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 5:54:43 PM(UTC)
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yes there is gold in the area burkes pass was a popular area and if you look on the left going west and use your imgination you can still see the old workings there are a couple of old sod houses in the area

i have been into a gold drive on the glenshiel farm nztm e 1423670 n 5132119 it was about 25 years ago im sure the farmer would be able to give more details

i have sliced deep creek with a little colour e 1428090 n 5133864 my ex sister inlaw had the farm

ive got some more stories such as the old timer that used to come into the makikihi pub and pay for his drinks in gold he worked up in the hunter hills somewhere

i have studyed the area a bit there seems to be a geological line from macres flat through to foxes peak where all these spots seem to fall
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Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 6:09:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: madsonicboating Go to Quoted Post
I love old history books and buying local books and recently read a passage in one and am now excited and planning some mis-adventures to these more local area's for me...

"The discovery of gold in payable quantities was first reported on 22nd Aug 1866. It had been found in the Mckenzie country, 9 miles from the junction on the Ohau and Tekapo rivers, and up the Waihao Valley. Gold was also found west of Mouth Four Peaks on 7th April 1869 , in the Upper Opuha, behind Mt Fox 12th May 1869, and at the orari gorge for which the Government reward was claimed on 25th Aug 1869."

"On 4th november 1869 650 acres were reserved to cover a supposed quartz reef west of the north branch of the Waihao river. Poor returns caused the prospectors to cease on 27th June 1870"


There is more to this Waihao river story too (1874, 1875, 1881) but its too much to write lol....any one out there know more about this or these stories?

Dan


I might assume that is Waihao river not in the McKenzie but to the East away in behind Waimate.

I have told a couple of people about this area as I used to frequent here a great deal of my time but hunting rather than minnig - in those days my gold mining was done in Central Otago and Eastern Otage and my hunting in the Hunter Hills and Upper Waihao. I lived there for nearly a decade and still spend a great deal of time there but must admit that when it comes to gold I would rather go for gold than chicken shit...in other words you will get colour but you wont get rich! .

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http://www.paperspast.na...DA---2%22john+bligh%22--

http://www.nzfishing.com...tion/KaiwaruaStation.htm

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Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 7:11:22 PM(UTC)
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hi lammerlaw

i didnt know there were chickens up the waihau

how else would you get "chicken shit " if there were no chickens

maybe some hot chicks in some of the swimming holes in the river in the summer must go there with my big hose (on my dredge) and do some "sucking"
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hi lammerlaw

i didnt know there were chickens up the waihau

how else would you get "chicken shit " if there were no chickens

maybe some hot chicks in some of the swimming holes in the river in the summer must go there with my big hose (on my dredge) and do some "sucking"


With a large number of locals who would easily fit into the Kentucky Hillbilly category one has to be very careful with whom you fraterinise with up in them thar hills otherwise Zeb, Clement and 'Boy' are likely to come a hunting. In any case you wouldnt want to share the hose with 'Sis' otherwise I can gaurantee it will become very perished within a very short time and could easily drop right off its mounting. As far as the sucking is concerned you can be assured that sausage is very much on the Hillbilly menu and Hillbilly woman might begin with all good intentions but the desire for sausage could outweigh any pleasurable instincts these lasses have...apparently and according to hearsay a long time back some 'goldminer' was seen running down the road naked screaming holding a sausage with false teeth clamped to it.

As for the hot chicks in the swimming hole - have you ever seen a whale with barnacles?

The following is a true story - my Uncle whose photo is on the 'Historical' section of 'Gold dredging forum' under 'Dredging in the 1960s' Dad and myself were away in the back of beyond gold mining one day and Uncle and Dad went off upstream. When my Uncle later came down he was still laughing. Both of them were skin diving when my uncle saw floatinng past him semi submerged a snorkel with false teeth still attached - My old man who was upriver a bit has sneezed under water and in the process sneezed out his false teeth and the snorkel held them together.

I am quite sure that my Uncles lucky number was six as there were quite a number of crevices from which he got six ounces.

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Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 8:31:45 PM(UTC)
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well once again i can rely on a good comment
waimate yea must not run the place down but im sure there is some pig squealing going on in them hills
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hi lammerlaw should have added since you on about diving
my wife has an unusual way of attracting my attention when im diving with the hooker (not its not taking of her wetsuit bottom) that would work as well but she just turns off the pump and motor
funny how one then has to surface
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I knew of the gold in the Waihao for well over forty years and to be honest I was always going to go and have a look. When I lived there permanently the old timers who knew these things said it was at Kaiwarua. I used to shoot out there and why I didnt have a look when I was camped out there I will never know but I do remember the last trip out there was with two friends - when we woke up on the Morning of the day to go home there was deep snow on the ground and how we got out and forded the river a couple of times in my Landrover and up the slopes I am blowed if I know.

In any case it was mined on a small scale but apparently the miners were kicked off for rustling sheep.

Another story is that a horse and cart came into town from Hunter area and jammed between the wood and steel tyre was a small nugget although another account said that the nugget was jammed in the horse hoof between the hoof and a lose shoe causing the horse to go lame...I dont know if this account is recorded on paper or not but being such an extraordinary thing I am sure it is - I will perve through the old copies of Waimate Advertiser to see if I can find a reference to it as this paper has reprinted a great deal of its archival material.

One of my friends who told me these accounts lived in two little army huts on the outskirts of Waimate. He and his wife met when he was a rabbiter on Molesworth in the 1930s - they had a gold claim near where a friend of his once found so many ounces of gold that no one on here would believe it. My old friend and his wife had their gold hidden under their sofa - each holiday for thirty or so years was in its own bottle and how much was there I wouldnt know but it was many ounces - where it went to who knows.
His old friend who had a claim during the 1930s had 17 pickle jars full of gold under his bed in the hotel. During the 1970s I met the old friend and he also told me about his gold mining days. There were five of them apparently but the one I knew was Lance Hooper - the rest of this story is well known to history...Scotland Point , Cromwell...Bell, Hooper, Kilgour.
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Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 8:57:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwikeith Go to Quoted Post
hi lammerlaw should have added since you on about diving
my wife has an unusual way of attracting my attention when im diving with the hooker (not its not taking of her wetsuit bottom) that would work as well but she just turns off the pump and motor
funny how one then has to surface



I am not so sure that I would want a pretty woman flaunting it when I am diving in cold water - it would require sucking to re emerge!...What was I saying? Oh yes - Dad bought all the diving gear 20 years ago and took it out for a trial - all went well and he took it home. About two weeks later my nephew and I went up goldmiining and then the next weekend was Labour weekend - he asked me if I was going up to my place and I said "No I am going to Waimate" to take my whale...Oops wife to her parents - actually shes more like a shark - sleek and fast, especially when it comes to money.
He asked me if he could mine a spot I had 'reserved' and had always said 'NO' - why I said Yes on that occasion I will never know...I am glad I did...he was dead one week later. He shot off all my hidden ammunition supply at Labour weekend. After his funeral they found a paper wrapped packet which he had bought at the gunshop and on it was pencilled my name. I have never had the heart to use the ammo - its a bugger being semtimental.
Goldmining came to an end then and we never went out again on the scale we used to - Dad never did go diving again, nor my brother in law and it is only recently that I have really got back into it and maybe this year will be the first year in those twenty years I have got back into it on the scale of the past.
As for the gear Dad bought - he said he was going to sell it a couple of years ago so I grabbed it - all still as new, motor and compressor, regulators still in their boxes, hoses etc...maybe one day.

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hahahaaa brilliant and informative reading gentlemen...I daresay tho that after years of playing Waimate on the rugby field and out ahem hatred of playing the dirty buggers, that I will be very wary of being alone in the waimo hills....

also if theres any thing of the sort with me in Waimo involving "sucking" or blowjobs...it will only involve dynamite and large rocks....now THATS a blow job haha.

I think on my next trip up to Haldon with the boat Iwill head down Waimo and then over the Haka pass instead of the mckenzie pass and maybe stop some places and do a few test pans...if anything the scenery will be awesome and theres bound to be a nosey "roo" who is begging for hot lead :-D

Theres more info in my book I'm reading albiet it not much...I will try and add some later
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hahahaaa brilliant and informative reading gentlemen...I daresay tho that after years of playing Waimate on the rugby field and out ahem hatred of playing the dirty buggers, that I will be very wary of being alone in the waimo hills....

also if theres any thing of the sort with me in Waimo involving "sucking" or blowjobs...it will only involve dynamite and large rocks....now THATS a blow job haha.

I think on my next trip up to Haldon with the boat Iwill head down Waimo and then over the Haka pass instead of the mckenzie pass and maybe stop some places and do a few test pans...if anything the scenery will be awesome and theres bound to be a nosey "roo" who is begging for hot lead :-D

Theres more info in my book I'm reading albiet it not much...I will try and add some later


Who are you calling a gentleman - I sure in hell aint a gentleman.

I camped a few weeks at the top of the Haka Pass back I dont know when - on the McKenzie side at the only spot where theres a little stream you ford with willow trees on either side of the ford. I really dont think I would want to tow a boat through there unless you want a few drain holes where drain holes arent supposed to be...unless its upgraded. I spent a week or two there blasting bunyips - well not blasting as in 12g as I cant stand using a shotgun for bunnies - always used a .22
As for the gold - If you wanted to find some then its away up Kaiwarua - have a look at the second reference I gave you above.

Did you say dynamite - a bloke sold me this marvellous toy a little while ago and I am keen to try it out - its got two little brass plaques in it - the top one says
'H JULIUS SMITH'S
PAT'D PAT'D
MAR, 12, APR. 7,
1878 1886
PAT'D FEB.19.1895
IGNITING DYNAMO

The one on the front says
MANUFACTURED FOR
NOBEL'S
EXPLOSIVES COMPANY
-LIMITED-
GLASGOW
You see them in Westerns where da baddies blow up the railway track or in Western mining films - its one of those old Wild West explosive dynamos for letting of the dynamite. Its made of wood with a big T shaped handle and its the dandiest thing you ever saw. Now all I want is the crackers and 'I know a place'

I have been looking for someone whos dumb enough to put the index finger of his left paw on the left terminal and the index finger of his right paw on the right terminal while I push the handle down but the only bloke I know is one of them Hillbillies and he aint got a sense of humour and I am a bit worried that he might survive the experience...actually he lives in Waimate.

As for your book - dont tell us your reading a book tell us what bloody book!

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hahahaaa brilliant and informative reading gentlemen...I daresay tho that after years of playing Waimate on the rugby field and out ahem hatred of playing the dirty buggers, that I will be very wary of being alone in the waimo hills....

also if theres any thing of the sort with me in Waimo involving "sucking" or blowjobs...it will only involve dynamite and large rocks....now THATS a blow job haha.

I think on my next trip up to Haldon with the boat Iwill head down Waimo and then over the Haka pass instead of the mckenzie pass and maybe stop some places and do a few test pans...if anything the scenery will be awesome and theres bound to be a nosey "roo" who is begging for hot lead :-D

Theres more info in my book I'm reading albiet it not much...I will try and add some later


Who are you calling a gentleman - I sure in hell aint a gentleman.

I camped a few weeks at the top of the Haka Pass back I dont know when - on the McKenzie side at the only spot where theres a little stream you ford with willow trees on either side of the ford. I really dont think I would want to tow a boat through there unless you want a few drain holes where drain holes arent supposed to be...unless its upgraded. I spent a week or two there blasting bunyips - well not blasting as in 12g as I cant stand using a shotgun for bunnies - always used a .22
As for the gold - If you wanted to find some then its away up Kaiwarua - have a look at the second reference I gave you above.

Did you say dynamite - a bloke sold me this marvellous toy a little while ago and I am keen to try it out - its got two little brass plaques in it - the top one says
'H JULIUS SMITH'S
PAT'D PAT'D
MAR, 12, APR. 7,
1878 1886
PAT'D FEB.19.1895
IGNITING DYNAMO

The one on the front says
MANUFACTURED FOR
NOBEL'S
EXPLOSIVES COMPANY
-LIMITED-
GLASGOW
You see them in Westerns where da baddies blow up the railway track or in Western mining films - its one of those old Wild West explosive dynamos for letting of the dynamite. Its made of wood with a big T shaped handle and its the dandiest thing you ever saw. Now all I want is the crackers and 'I know a place'

I have been looking for someone whos dumb enough to put the index finger of his left paw on the left terminal and the index finger of his right paw on the right terminal while I push the handle down but the only bloke I know is one of them Hillbillies and he aint got a sense of humour and I am a bit worried that he might survive the experience...actually he lives in Waimate.

As for your book - dont tell us your reading a book tell us what bloody book!



haha yeah man the gentleman part was definitely just a figure of speech haha!

The book is "tragedies triumphs and treasures of Timaru & South Canterbury" It doesn't have a great deal of info just interesting tidbits.

And camping at Haka would be awesome...my uncle, Doug Wilson had a station there for years but when we camped there I was just a sprog so gold never even entered my innocent head.

I have cousins in Waimo...Wilsons and Creightons wonder i you mean them as definitely Waimate hill billies lol.

Lastly....my boat http://www.youtube.com/w...jzRs&feature=related is 7mm steel hulled and nice on high on trailer for dragging up the rangitata chasing salmon...I will make you a deal...if you hold the coil wire while I give her a wind over I will hold your dynamo hahaaa...which talking of I'd like to see a photo or 2 they sound very cool and old!

how deep are ya gold bearing streams down your way...she loves narrow stuff just gets heavy to push in the shallows :-D

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Posted : Friday, 14 October 2011 8:23:11 PM(UTC)
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hi madson etc
gentleman no this old bugger
man yes
gentle only when i want something of my wife
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Where do we begin here? - never heard of that book and now I have to pillage it from some library somewhere, if its good I might even be prepared to buy a copy.

I knew a female whos family had a station up Haka - she had the purtiest face I ever did see but she looked a bit like a beanpole and didnt have any bumps in the right places to fondle and play with.

Actually my second cousins wife might have been a Wilson...I am not sure but I think so. Then there were the Wilsons down Molloys Road then there were the Wilsons at Morven...one of them married my fathers cousins daughter.

...and I forgot to mention that the bloke with the six drunken Hillbillys behind him gets to push down the handle of the dynamo...as for the coil...try the bank of them I have here from Model T Fords...they are wicked things.

I went to have a look at a boat the other day up in Picton - I am still thinking seriously about it - 22m and just what I want.

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MADSONICBOATING

Where do we begin here? - never heard of that book and now I have to pillage it from some library somewhere, if its good I might even be prepared to buy a copy.

I knew a female whos family had a station up Haka - she had the purtiest face I ever did see but she looked a bit like a beanpole and didnt have any bumps in the right places to fondle and play with.

Actually my second cousins wife might have been a Wilson...I am not sure but I think so. Then there were the Wilsons down Molloys Road then there were the Wilsons at Morven...one of them married my fathers cousins daughter.

...and I forgot to mention that the bloke with the six drunken Hillbillys behind him gets to push down the handle of the dynamo...as for the coil...try the bank of them I have here from Model T Fords...they are wicked things.

I went to have a look at a boat the other day up in Picton - I am still thinking seriously about it - 22m and just what I want.



haha I reckon if you tried the Wilson's from Morven you wouldn't be far wrong... William or Bill as he was known was my Grandpa lived there for years...it's where my Mum and family all grew up...Ian (owned blackrock station ?? for a time), and Doug (Haka and more recently a better and bigger station right in gold country...secrect location haha cos I'm planning some serious detecting there this summer) ..Robert Wilson was Pa's father...I know Pa was born in balclutha and did try his hand at gold fossicking for awhile I'm not sure where.

That dynamo thing you mentioned...I downloaded a great series from america called pawn stars...its deals with all usa antiques and all sorts of shit...an episode I watched last night had one of those things...crazy looking wee 1860's dynamo I think I'd prefer a long fuse and a fast step lol.

Is 22m still classed as a boat or does it fall into the ship catagory? Thats some big arse water displacement right there man!! How much gold did you say you had again hahaaa

Oh and the book is only one of those smallish type of local history books and yeah probably pretty hard to find a copy but this one came from local library...it was published by the south canterbury charitable radio trust and only has 1 and a half pages of info about this gold...it also mentioned that some ballast found in the hull of an australian ship had come from the beach of Timaru and was gold bearing quartz...well I walked the beach out here last night for an hour picking up stones, whale bones and all sorts in a cold southerly wind but I didn't see no quartz or gold!!

Maybe theres more info if you look up the "waiho gold mining company ... 1875"

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MADSONICBOATING

Where do we begin here? - never heard of that book and now I have to pillage it from some library somewhere, if its good I might even be prepared to buy a copy.

I knew a female whos family had a station up Haka - she had the purtiest face I ever did see but she looked a bit like a beanpole and didnt have any bumps in the right places to fondle and play with.

Actually my second cousins wife might have been a Wilson...I am not sure but I think so. Then there were the Wilsons down Molloys Road then there were the Wilsons at Morven...one of them married my fathers cousins daughter.

...and I forgot to mention that the bloke with the six drunken Hillbillys behind him gets to push down the handle of the dynamo...as for the coil...try the bank of them I have here from Model T Fords...they are wicked things.

I went to have a look at a boat the other day up in Picton - I am still thinking seriously about it - 22m and just what I want.



haha I reckon if you tried the Wilson's from Morven you wouldn't be far wrong... William or Bill as he was known was my Grandpa lived there for years...it's where my Mum and family all grew up...Ian (owned blackrock station ?? for a time), and Doug (Haka and more recently a better and bigger station right in gold country...secrect location haha cos I'm planning some serious detecting there this summer) ..Robert Wilson was Pa's father...I know Pa was born in balclutha and did try his hand at gold fossicking for awhile I'm not sure where.

That dynamo thing you mentioned...I downloaded a great series from america called pawn stars...its deals with all usa antiques and all sorts of shit...an episode I watched last night had one of those things...crazy looking wee 1860's dynamo I think I'd prefer a long fuse and a fast step lol.

Is 22m still classed as a boat or does it fall into the ship catagory? Thats some big arse water displacement right there man!! How much gold did you say you had again hahaaa

Oh and the book is only one of those smallish type of local history books and yeah probably pretty hard to find a copy but this one came from local library...it was published by the south canterbury charitable radio trust and only has 1 and a half pages of info about this gold...it also mentioned that some ballast found in the hull of an australian ship had come from the beach of Timaru and was gold bearing quartz...well I walked the beach out here last night for an hour picking up stones, whale bones and all sorts in a cold southerly wind but I didn't see no quartz or gold!!

Maybe theres more info if you look up the "waiho gold mining company ... 1875"


Ok - Did one of your cousins, aunts, uncles or otherwise marry a half maori girl - if so then shes my Dads, cousins daughter - I think I have got all that right. Did one of the guys in the family have the nick name 'Smiler' - he would have been the brother of the one who married my third cousin.

As for the boat http://www.trademe.co.nz...on/auction-397809795.htm

I am really keen on it but need to sell something and it aint going to be gold - my wife could buy me three of them without blinking an eye BUT she dont like me anymore - something to do with something that happened at Waimate once! Actually I am up and down from Waimate all the time and when I am up there live out at Morven - I married a Morven girl. All my duck shooting is done there.

The dynamo thing is really quite a toy and I am sure that had I been a member of the Gestapo, MI5, CKB, CIA or Kempai Tai I could have found some useful purpose for it. As for the fuse idea - not good - I tend to cut them far too short and once back in 1977 up at - guess where - I managed to blow myself up.

As for how much gold I have - I didnt say - maybe because I really dont know. I stopped weighing it years ago.
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Gidday Lammers. Nice boat, used to be one of the Navy In-shore patrol craft. Bloooody nice old beasties and in my Navy days used to go out on short trips around the Hauraki Gulf. man I must be old.
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Posted : Monday, 17 October 2011 7:19:47 PM(UTC)
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it has a bigger TV than my bloody house!! Definitely a ship lol

You would enjoy plenty of days on that baby Lammerlaw!
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Posted : Monday, 17 October 2011 8:28:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: madsonicboating Go to Quoted Post
it has a bigger TV than my bloody house!! Definitely a ship lol

You would enjoy plenty of days on that baby Lammerlaw!


Yeah I even have a couple of popguns for it - a whale harpoon gun for harpooning lost containers - apparently theres a few floating around the briney right about now...sorta like a lucky dip and an anti aircraft gun (Oerlikon) from one of those HDMLs for shooting mutton birds, ducks and the odd Pterodactyl.

Being serious I am tempted but just cant bring myself to putting a spare section I have on the market and I sure in hell aint selling any gold - I keep crossing my fingers and hoping someone will knock on the door and ask me if they could buy the section at my price and I would hit the buy now button before I even got to the computer

As for the TV - it could go where the sun dont shine - I wouldnt want it and would probably reinstate the vessel to close to original - guess I am a bit old fashioned

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