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kiwijw  
Posted : Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:26:42 PM(UTC)
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Hi guys, I am usualy pretty biased & anti when people come up with a "new" type of sluice box & I feel they are just re inventing the wheel so to speak. I find it very hard to go past the tried & proven basic sluice box that we all know. But this one I feel has something going for it. Check it out & tell me what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9xbpU0WAqs

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Posted : Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:08:39 PM(UTC)
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no bloody good Hows that going handel a bloke goinng hardout on the shovel The outside of the bends will just keep filling up because of the no current
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Posted : Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:59:41 PM(UTC)
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Interesting but whats the point. I have seen good old fashioned sluice boxes of the most primitive and cheap construction save even the finest gold and then up the top end so why go to all the trouble making this thing?
If it comes to the crunch it is a matter of personal choice and if someone wants to be different then what the heck"
kiwijw  
Posted : Thursday, 1 September 2011 1:00:17 AM(UTC)
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Hi Garry & Graeme, Thanks for your comments. I kind of liked the concept of it & how it is modeled on the bends of a river & the way the curves & bends of a river concentrate material. I agree that it would be a bastard of a thing to make. The best time to check out a river for possible gold locations & to see the back eddies & such is when a river is in full flood. They behave in a much different way when in flood & hence moving & depositing gold. You will notice towards the end of the first footage how the bubbles on top of the water are back peddling against the main current. Just like a river in flood & this is where the gold & heavies are going to drop out or get sucked & tucked out of the main flow. Interersting I think.
Garry....in the 2nd footage they have quite a velocity of water going down the box & I dont think bigger stones would build up & the heavies & black sands would just concentrate on the down stream side of the bends, like in a hungerian riffle. It would get to a stage when you would have to clean out the build up. I reckon you could shovel into it as fast as you could with no problems.
Sluice boxs are strange things & no one box is going to be perfect at trapping all types & sizes of gold. A dredge box needs a certain velocity of water going down it just to wash on the bigger rocks, let alone the finer material & smaller gold. The bigger your dredge the stronger the water flow needs to be to wash on & out the bigger rocks. This isnt good for saving the finer gold. Just like with a river sluice. If you are going to just shovel directly in to it then you are going to need a stronger flow to wash on the bigger material with out having to stop & man handle the bigger bits out of it. Again this isnt good for fine gold recovery. Riffle height & spacing comes into this equation as well. Depending on the size & shape, mass & density of the gold in the material being worked then the sluice box really needs a size & spacing of riffle to suit.
If the gold is fairly small then I use a riffle height of no more 12mm & spaced at about 80mm.

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The material is usualy classified so nothing bigger than 10mm is going down the box & I have a fairly gentle water flow.

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Just enough to wash on the waste material with out me having to rake it on & out the box.

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This works very well at saving finer gold & of course bigger bits if they are present.

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If I shovel directly in to the box then I use a longer box, 1200 long, same height riffle but spaced closer together at about 40 mm

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My 4" dredge box is a different kettle of fish with 30mm riffles spaced at about 50mm. With a reasonable amount of water going down the box to wash on the bigger stones it still traps the black sand pretty well but I am sure would be losing some fine gold.

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Happy hunting

JW :)
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Posted : Thursday, 1 September 2011 1:23:17 AM(UTC)
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Good stuff JW
i got a wee fright when i saw the coin there ; ) but youv gota have something to compare all that nice hokey pokey gold to!!
crikey...that sluice is rather packed up oo i wonder how you go putting a little more angle on it....?
GBM.

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Posted : Thursday, 1 September 2011 9:32:35 AM(UTC)
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Yep thats a interesting concept all right, i guess the only way to find out if its any good would be to make one and run a known amount of gold trough it at different water flows and weigh it again after, i think i will put it on the stuff to build list and give it a go one day just to cure my curiosity !

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kiwijw  
Posted : Thursday, 1 September 2011 7:15:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gingerbreadman Go to Quoted Post
Good stuff JW
i got a wee fright when i saw the coin there ; ) but youv gota have something to compare all that nice hokey pokey gold to!!
crikey...that sluice is rather packed up oo i wonder how you go putting a little more angle on it....?
GBM.


Hi there GBM, Ha ha ....the coin....LOL :) Yer hokey pokey Coro gold. As to the box being packed.....It was time to clean it up I must admit, but you know how when you shut the motor down that last surge of water in its dying throws washes the material forward a bit.

Stressless, Yes the concept interests me too. Not sure I will bother making one though. If you do, keep us informed on how it does & what you think. Cheers

Happy hunting

JW :)