I endorse Kiwikeiths sentiments thoroughly.
I do note two opposing aspects of the entire situation - if a person owns land or owns a gold claim then that is his/her property and they have paid for the right to have the say over who does or who does not go onto their land. If they catch someone there then whatever befalls that person is of their own making.
I note people even on this forum who are too nosey for their own good and have absolutely no idea of the etiquette of the gold miner - see and admire but ask no questions and dont prod for clues. At the same time on this forum there have been many who I note have been friendly and decent and these I have made it clear are welcome to meet me and come out for a trip. If you do go out on a trip with a landowner, claim holder or just a person in the know then you never go back without their say so or without an invite - thats the etiquette of it all. One person on this very forum was told by my son where he got gold and now goes there - the old hands would take a dim view of that...find you own spots without letting them down.
The second aspect to the situation is that this is a police state and the rights of the citizens of this police state are being gradually eroded all the time and have been sadly diminished since the 1970s - up to the 1970s you bought a 'Miners Right' for I think either five shillings or ten shillings (50 cents or one dollar) and this gave you access to all crown lands to potter around, pan, take your sluice box and have fun, fun, fun. If you found a great spot and wanted to claim it you made application to the Wardens Court - down here in otago it was at Alexaqndra if I remember correctly. I wanted to claim a Copper mine and re open it. I didnt attend the hearing - I just wrote letters of explanation and the one objection was overcome with another letter of explanation. The application fee was a few dollars and it was all done. Today the criminals who run this country on behalf of those who hold the mortgage do not want us to have any rights nor any freedom and for the entire populace of New Zealand there are a mere handful of 'Public Fossicking Areas' - We, the populace at large should be pushing and legislating to have the 'Miners Right' which gives you access to all crown lands again except National Parks (perhaps restricted access to prospect with the good old tin dish) and land held under Fee Simple - we do not have true freehold here in New Zealand to the best of my knowledge - another ominous sign that all is not well - dont believe me? have a look at your title to your property - can you see the word 'Freehold' or do you see the words 'Fee Simple' meaning freehold BUT subject to whatever liens the government may impose on you - wait until the criminals have sold all National assets - your fee simple property will be taken next to pay the ongoing National Debt!
The same is happening with your rights to go gold mining - they dont want you to go gold mining - they make it hard for you to get a claim using every excuse under the sun to make it hard - remember that you cannot even skim the top off an old tailings heap without being prosecuted and yet outfits like the Macraes Mine can destroy hundreds and even thousands of acres of native habitat of endangered species, Skinks, Geckos, orchids etc without the blink of an eye and where does the gold go? - Offshore to the very hands of those who lent us money to become the welfare state in the 1950s - payback time folks and it is you who suffer. We, the gullible are told that the mine at Macraes for example is good for the economy - what a load of pure twaddle - we get a few jobs, a few contractors are made or broken and that is all - nothing more...Oh except the 1% royalty to the crown...OUR gold goes to, I understand one family who are high rollers in the world banking business and to the offshore owners of the mine.
If we dont get of our behinds and do something about it before it is too late then ALL our rights will have gone and by the time we wake up it will be too late...in the meantime to all young fellows out there my advice is, carry your pan, glass bottom box and scratcher, a small snifter and a hand hoe which can be taken from its handle - the handle is your walking stick OR your metal detector - do not go onto the claims of others nor on freehold land but by all means play and prospect on YOUR land, the crown land which you own by right and must endeavour to put back in the hands of those who will administer it for YOUR good, protect YOUR rights and not bow to the dictates of their offshore masters who currently hold the purse strings and think they will continue to do so.
Partly Political Propaganda broadcast over folks - dont vote for the puppet government who reside for the rich and famous!
Saying all that there are many places you can go - just ask permission of land owners - get friendly with some of the older generation - there are many spots not looked at in modern times which have not been worked since the depression and in these spots great gold is to be found. Get to know the right people. There are many on this site whom I would be most happy to give a few clues and assistance to and to take out now and again but there are a couple who would not get the time of day - it comes down to personalities and the way you approach people, what you say to people who are strangers until you get to know them and how well you stick to the miners etiquette as to whether they will take you out again.
Edited by user Friday, 18 November 2011 10:43:16 AM(UTC)
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