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GoldPandemic  
Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2014 9:28:32 AM(UTC)
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Well I'd pretty much decided to buy a Minelab Excalibur 2:
http://www.detectnz.co.n...egory+2/Excalibur+2.html

But then it seems to be in the treasure Detecting section.
Now I'm after the shiney stuff (GOLD).
I wonder if I'm better off getting Minelab GPX 5000 Gold Detector - NEW Pro Pack, then water proofing it?
There is also Garrett ATX DeepSeeker Package:
http://www.trademe.co.nz...isting.aspx?id=799298576
I'd love some opinions on which you guys thing is the better package.
In the future I intend to go diving to 120m, and the Excalibur is only good to 66m depth - so I'd need to reinforce that anyway.

I'd love to get some advice on waterproofing, if you have any?
I'll also need some tips for waterproofing my pointer - I've seen some cases people have built for theirs.
And I suppose I'll need some kind of lighting for night hunting and where it is dark in the water.

Also I'm going to need a wetsuit - hopefully something that can be used later on when I go diving?
Though I understand these can get ripped to shreads on river rocks - so perhaps something basic for now (with skateboarding kneepads or duct tape on knees).
I've got an idea of gloves & self draining gumboots.

Edited by user Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:31:31 PM(UTC)  | Reason: add ATX detector

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Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2014 9:51:17 AM(UTC)
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120 meters?????

What are you planning? finding that lost gold bullion off the Niagara ship wreck?

I sincerely hope you are a commercial diver, or otherwise suitably trained and understand fully the risks involved in diving at that depth. 66m is a sensible depth, that's the limit of normoxic breathing pushed right to the safe limit.
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Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:29:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Darren Go to Quoted Post
120 meters?????

What are you planning? finding that lost gold bullion off the Niagara ship wreck?

I sincerely hope you are a commercial diver, or otherwise suitably trained and understand fully the risks involved in diving at that depth. 66m is a sensible depth, that's the limit of normoxic breathing pushed right to the safe limit.


Yeah, I know - its going to take a lot of training & specialist equipment.
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Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:30:26 PM(UTC)
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I think you should start with the Excalibur, and if you find you are likely to exceed the capability of the machine, then get an upgrade.,
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Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2014 2:16:01 PM(UTC)
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Just in case you're considering a Minelab GPX 4500 - I'm flicking that on to help fund a dredge purchase. It comes with a waterproof joey coil.

More details of what comes with it:
http://www.paydirt.co.nz/forums/yaf_postst4417_Minelab-GPX-4500-with-3-x-battery-and-3-x-coils.aspx

I believe it'll go down deeper than 120m, but it won't work anymore :P
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Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2014 8:49:45 PM(UTC)
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120 metres? yeah right. Here is a link to an Australian dive training site, just to give an idea of what is required.
http://www.plungediving....au/technical-diving.html

A 30 metre dive is the maximum depth for PADI recognised divers. Take a few years of training, experience and big costs.
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Posted : Friday, 31 October 2014 8:20:20 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, Im going to scrap the deep sea diving - just read an article.
Some guys went down they could only stay down for 15min, and was VERY dangerous with trawler nets floating around.
And they had to set up guidelines & get special permission to dive, just far too much work also with danger of body deciding to kark it.

I've pretty much decided on Minelabs GPX 5000, and will just figure out ways to waterproof the entire thing - custom perspex shell - what do you think?
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Posted : Friday, 31 October 2014 3:29:19 PM(UTC)
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How about shrinkwrap. You can get that plastic wrap that shrinks if you apply heat to it, that should do the job. Or you could just get a waterproof detector. Or you could stay out of the water.
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Posted : Tuesday, 18 November 2014 11:06:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gjj109 Go to Quoted Post
How about shrinkwrap. You can get that plastic wrap that shrinks if you apply heat to it, that should do the job. Or you could just get a waterproof detector. Or you could stay out of the water.

Seems you want me out of the water?
I've decided upon getting a bicycle to travel from remote towns to fossicking sites. Then to charge my detector battery in the evenings I've found a dynamo with tripod that I attach to rear of bicycle. I plan to have two batteries, and camp out - so have tarp if it rains.
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Posted : Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:40:43 PM(UTC)
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My opinion for what its worth -

Why buy new when you clearly are going to void any warranty that you may have had by carrying out the modification you require?

It would make sense to purchased a good condition used unit and do the mods to the detector as needed -

If I was in the same boat (which I am not) I would at least consider Gavin's Minelab GPX 4500

As for waterproofing a Garrett Pin Pointer there are a few good vids on this on youtube

Hope this helps and look forward in reading your future endeavours

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Posted : Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:52:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sycotoad Go to Quoted Post
My opinion for what its worth -

Why buy new when you clearly are going to void any warranty that you may have had by carrying out the modification you require?

It would make sense to purchased a good condition used unit and do the mods to the detector as needed -

If I was in the same boat (which I am not) I would at least consider Gavin's Minelab GPX 4500

As for waterproofing a Garrett Pin Pointer there are a few good vids on this on youtube

Hope this helps and look forward in reading your future endeavours



Yes, I've seen some of the waterproofing for pointers.
Haven't had a serious look at it yet though, thanks.
I don't think I'll be voiding the warranty by enclosing the entire metal detector unit - nothing that couldn't be removed.
Just like an underwater point & shoot digital camera case.
At the moment I'm still reading up on ethics & where is acceptable to metal detect.
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Posted : Wednesday, 19 November 2014 12:39:34 PM(UTC)
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Hi there,

Sorry if i missed post where you could of introsudes yourself. but, may i ask :


1. How old are you?
2. General free time you think can spare on metal detecting a week ?


The reason i am asking is that a lot of people look at my posts with al those cool gold rings and stuff, but never get the side info, that there are usually ratio of 5 outigns 4+ hours each when i me or other treasure hunters get nothing, before hitting tha tone gold ring.

So if you thinking of detecting for profit, then sorry tht is not the case, a day job pays way higher.
THE ONLY profitable scenario if you fidn a virgin beach that was populated ever since.. and unfortunately ther eis no such places in AUckland.

So the point is, if you buy a 2k+ machine from the begging with an expectation that you will get rich, then i have bad news for you

However if you start with expectation of just finding anythign and getting your fitness level up - digging, lots of digging and walking, ttotal walk diging times are over 3-4 hours a day .

Feel free to ask any questions :-)

Max


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Posted : Wednesday, 19 November 2014 8:26:15 PM(UTC)
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GoldPandemic wrote

Yes, I've seen some of the waterproofing for pointers.
Haven't had a serious look at it yet though, thanks.
I don't think I'll be voiding the warranty by enclosing the entire metal detector unit - nothing that couldn't be removed.
Just like an underwater point & shoot digital camera case.
At the moment I'm still reading up on ethics & where is acceptable to metal detect.


No worries GoldPandemic -

Hope you get your teeth into it & it turns out well for you good sir -

I look forward to your future posts -

Thanks ;)

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Posted : Friday, 21 November 2014 5:40:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DrunkBrother Go to Quoted Post
Hi there,
Sorry if i missed post where you could of introsudes yourself. but, may i ask :

1. How old are you?
2. General free time you think can spare on metal detecting a week ?

The reason i am asking is that a lot of people look at my posts with al those cool gold rings and stuff, but never get the side info, that there are usually ratio of 5 outigns 4+ hours each when i me or other treasure hunters get nothing, before hitting tha tone gold ring.

So if you thinking of detecting for profit, then sorry tht is not the case, a day job pays way higher.
THE ONLY profitable scenario if you fidn a virgin beach that was populated ever since.. and unfortunately ther eis no such places in AUckland.

So the point is, if you buy a 2k+ machine from the begging with an expectation that you will get rich, then i have bad news for you

However if you start with expectation of just finding anythign and getting your fitness level up - digging, lots of digging and walking, ttotal walk diging times are over 3-4 hours a day .

Feel free to ask any questions :-)

Max

I didn't make an introductory post, but years ago I found this site and that is when I became facinated with gold fossicking, I even built a very crappy (read: WRONG) home made sluice and used it on our farm (no gold expected or found) mostly clay soils.
I've been lurking for sometime, it is just now I have some spare change to get a detector, I might even take it to OZ, thinking of checking out Tazmania, as it is similar to NZ - beautiful.

1. 30's
2. Maybe a hour a week.

But would be good to get out and do far off places; fossicking areas. I've not travelled the South Island much, and this would be a good chance to get out and about. (even if it was just for the travel & scenic photo's, but meeting people would be great.)
What I would be happy with is just a small bit of gold, but half the fun is finding a bit.
I'd be happy to get down into rivers/creeks just to let fossickers know if there was something there. I'm just as happy seeing others excited about finds, in fact if I found more it is likely I'd share most of it around.
And treasures on the beaches, especially if I could return something someone lost.

It's likely that I would donate any significant historical finds to a museum (if low value then to local small time museums). I've too many possessions and with a collective personality streak to boot.

When I first found this site, one poster said Fossils are worth more (a good/rare find can fetch $200,000+).
But I like little shiny hidden treasures. Or historical (human) items, I've a strong touch of nostalgia.
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Posted : Saturday, 22 November 2014 9:17:33 PM(UTC)
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Hi Pandemmic...maybe you should start on the other side of the scale or to put another way shallow end rather than the deep end ! just to make sure you dont mind getting wet feet first if you get my drift to me what you are saying is a pretty adventuris for a noob:) ...dont get me wrong i like your way of thinking and its great to think outside the box but i believe like everyone else you will need to serve out your apprenticeship along the way so buy sensible and start off somewhere easy i would think if you got the Excalibur that would open up a huge area of use especially if you did go for a few dives in 1.5 or 2,3 meters of water even at that depth you will need all the diving gear to my way of thinking a hooka would be ideal...but the point is start get a feel for things first rather than throwing all you have at something and failing/burning out simply because you didn't have a good bit of first hand knollage of what you are trying to achieve .
Good luck :).
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Posted : Friday, 23 January 2015 8:26:57 AM(UTC)
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Perhaps at Garrett ATGold unit may be a consideration with its designed 10ft/3m complete unit waterproofing?
-But if your considering raiding Nuptunes deep treasures a high pressure capsule would be needed......

Good luck!
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Posted : Friday, 23 January 2015 2:48:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Greg Go to Quoted Post
Perhaps at Garrett ATGold unit may be a consideration with its designed 10ft/3m complete unit waterproofing?
-But if your considering raiding Nuptunes deep treasures a high pressure capsule would be needed......

Good luck!


I'm going for the GPX 5000, will water proof it, somehow. Need to go down no more than 5m.
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Posted : Friday, 23 January 2015 7:41:09 PM(UTC)
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No more than 5 metres now? Yeah I agree with others. Start off with a mid range machine until you are sure it's for you.
The new Garrett pro pointer is waterproof which could be an option rather than trying to waterproof a standard pointer.
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Posted : Friday, 4 September 2015 2:55:51 PM(UTC)
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Well I just got a good deal on a GPX 5000 and it doesn't appear to be too difficult to waterproof - though it might add a bit to the weight. That should be off set in the water though. Hope I don't get sucked into any whirlpools in them rivers. I'll be roping myself to a grappling hook, and will hopefully be able to pull myself back to shore if I get into any trouble.
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Posted : Friday, 4 September 2015 10:43:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GoldPandemic Go to Quoted Post
Well I just got a good deal on a GPX 5000 and it doesn't appear to be too difficult to waterproof - though it might add a bit to the weight. That should be off set in the water though. Hope I don't get sucked into any whirlpools in them rivers. I'll be roping myself to a grappling hook, and will hopefully be able to pull myself back to shore if I get into any trouble.


What happens if the grapple hook doesn't hook or it hooks where you don't want it to hook or the rope catches the current or you end up in a whirlpool with grapple rope around your legs or the grapple rope ends up around a willow or a rock maybe you anchor the grapple hook and start pulling on it and it gives way with all current & ur weight on it...hmm make sure you put a float on the gpx il be waiting down stream for it :)
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