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Posted : Thursday, 7 July 2011 11:11:00 PM(UTC)
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i see some guy in the U.S. was passing off an Ozzie 96oz nugget as from his land in America. turns out he was trying to sell his land at an inflated price.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/o...gget-actually-Australian
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Posted : Friday, 8 July 2011 5:12:51 PM(UTC)
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Posted : Tuesday, 26 June 2012 4:30:06 PM(UTC)
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saw this article today about the sam's creek gold prospect.

they reckon it is nz's biggest unmined known gold site. just got a few issues such as the local enviros, what to do with the tailings, and the fact the gold is under hard rock


http://www.stuff.co.nz/b...d-strike-worth-2-billion
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Posted : Wednesday, 27 June 2012 9:12:44 PM(UTC)
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Wow, alot of potential by the sounds of things.
Money talks, they'll get in there and mine it for all its worth.

Goes to show there is still undiscovered golden reefs out there - the old timers can't possibly have got it all!
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Posted : Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:20:03 PM(UTC)
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I see Twig and Tweet have put their 2 cents in... Cant possibly mine there and create much needed jobs in the Bay because someone might upset a sparrow...
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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 8:12:06 AM(UTC)
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Typically.... it is an over seas company as all the big boy mining companies are. They have the money & resources to throw at things like this. The Sam's Creek prospect has been going on for years & that takes serious money & dont hold your breath that it will be a goer. If it does go ahead I doubt it will employ much local labour as it is specialised skills required, & it will just be more NZ gold heading overseas & we will benefit very little compared to the value of NZ gold heading off shore. The powers to be selling out....again.....for a pitance.

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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:29:39 AM(UTC)
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John is totally correct in what he says - These dipsticks who advocate for mining anywhere on a large scale by overseas outfits are as bad as the politicians who are selling us out to overseas corporations - in fact they are WORSE.

We are sold a pack of lies as to the benefit we reap from mining at places such as Macraes. We do get a minimal amount of benefit with some employment opportunities and some contract work but OUR gold goes overseas and our government gets a 25 royalty.

Those who say that we cannot mine it due to lack of knowledge and plant have not got the slightest clue what they are talking about. A great deal of the actual expertise comes form New Zealanders and therefore we do have the knowledge.

As for the finance - the government seems to be able to pull millions out of the hat to send to disaster areas overseas or to spend on various non income earning projects so what in hades is wrong with putting money into State owned mining ventures where the bosses are paid bonuses dependent on production and profit thus ensuring that honesty rules supreme.

There are also contractors in New Zealand who do have to type of money required to open mines such as Macraes, starting small and then expanding - in fact theother day I heard of one contractor spending $20M on his own private project and form humble beginnings now owns more land in his neck of the woods than any other individual family. This is through good business practices and careful financial considerations - so New Zealand HAS got the expertise - New Zealand HAS got the resources.

It is all political - New Zealand has been effectively bankrupted by the offshore bankers and THEY dictate terms to our government who sell us down the drain and allow foreign trash to mine OUR land and to steal OUR gold.

Where does Macraes gold go to? It does not do us any good at all and yet it is ours. We should put a stop to the government allowing off shore mining interests to pillage our land.
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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 4:50:40 PM(UTC)
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Spot on Lammerlaw and JW !!!!
We are beening bankrupted by offshore big boys,
Yes were does the money?
very little stays were it should,think of the health system,schools, basic infarstructure that could be upgraded if minning ops were carried out by nz owned companys.
What does the Goverment use for security on the money they are borrowing? our frecking land!!, mainly the west coast!
Like Graham said it is all political always has been and sad to say it will always be.
F@#$ them I say!!!!!!
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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 8:29:05 PM(UTC)
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Totally agree with the above 3 posts-Its gold,in NZ,therefore its NZs gold-simple.

I for one am sick of our assets being sold to the highest offshore bidder-Crafar farms ring any bells here?

NZ could quite easily mine the Sams Creek reef (goer or not) and create jobs income and profit for this country but the excuse for a government we have now is just in it for a quick buck and whoever replaces this lot will be just as bad if not worse.Show me an honest politician and Ill eat my gold pan.

Maybe its time for a revolution?

And if this forum is being monitored by the men in black you will never take me alive!
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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 9:15:07 PM(UTC)
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sams creek could become a state owned asset...... and then get sold to a multinational. but ou would think that if it held that much gold then you the government could fork out the $$$$$$ to mine it, get all of the income generated and be far better off rather then get a small % in royaltys. they seem to want to take risks (good or bad) everyday, why not take one that could benefit the whole country.
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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 9:57:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gogold Go to Quoted Post
sams creek could become a state owned asset...... and then get sold to a multinational. but ou would think that if it held that much gold then you the government could fork out the $$$$$$ to mine it, get all of the income generated and be far better off rather then get a small % in royaltys. they seem to want to take risks (good or bad) everyday, why not take one that could benefit the whole country.



What we need is a total replacement of the political 'Yes men' with people who have the interests of the country and the ordinary people at heart and who will not sell the country, their fellow countrymen and themselves down the gurgler - honest people who cannot be bought, who cannot be corrupted, who cannot be intimidated.

Tell the offshore bankers that we have paid more than enough back under the criminal fractional reserve system under which we borrow in the first place - annex all ex State owned properties back into State ownership.

Declare all gold a State and citizen owned asset allowing - opening State mines, annexing existing ones under State ownership and making it easier for the private citizen to fossick, prospect and mine. Pass legislation that all gold sold must be sold to a registered New Zealand buyer who cannot sell outside the country or sold to the State - the price set at say 95% after assay.

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Posted : Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:16:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: gogold Go to Quoted Post
sams creek could become a state owned asset...... and then get sold to a multinational. but ou would think that if it held that much gold then you the government could fork out the $$$$$$ to mine it, get all of the income generated and be far better off rather then get a small % in royaltys. they seem to want to take risks (good or bad) everyday, why not take one that could benefit the whole country.



What we need is a total replacement of the political 'Yes men' with peo[ple who have the interests of the country and the ordinary people at heart and who will not sell the country, their fellow countrymen and themselves down the gurgler - honest people who cannot be bought, who cannot be corrupted, who cannot be intimidated.

Tell the offshore bankers that we have paid more than enough back under the criminal fractional reserve system under which we borrow in the first place - annex all ex State owned properties back into State ownership.

Declare all gold a State and citizen owned asset allowing - opening State mines, annexing existing ones under State ownership and making it easier for the private citizen to fossick, prospect and mine. Pass legislation that all gold sold must be sold to a registered New Zealand buyer who cannot sell outside the country or sold to the State - the price set at say 95% after assay.



Sounds great, how do we do it!

On the subject of those offshore bankers owned by a few, I fail to understand how we have a NZ dollar when all we do is borrow from the Federal Reserve, of course with debt attached, what is our kiwi dollar backed by really?
How do we even have a currency with no Gold reserves?

For a country that has produced so much of this precious element over the many years, very little has remained in NZ to benefit us all, and it really does show the true colours of our elected political representatives.
I mean when you think about it, John Key worked for Merrill Lynch, was a member of a Foreign Exchange committee of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, all in his time before starting his political career here, so really, who's best interest would he really have at heart, NZ or the puppet masters???
Add to that, look at how Hollywood corporates come over here and suddenly labour laws are changed, or the recent ramming through of the internet laws to appease the interests of their 'masters' also.
DotCom is yet another example of the apparent trashing of our laws by Corporate Amerika! What an embarrassment to the nation, bowing down and doing what they are told to, not asking why, or is this legal, but how high should I jump?

Could probably go on an on, how do we take back our rights and get people in Government that are representative of the population?
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Posted : Friday, 29 June 2012 8:40:38 PM(UTC)
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GoldnNuggz - I would be prepared to put a little wager on the fact that Key is a Stooge for the Federal Reserve - supposedly from an ordinary family of limited his value now is $55M - NO banker or working class person amasses a fortune totalling $55M without piddling in someone's pocket.

To get this country back on track we need to wrestle control of the banking, annex it into the ownership of the people. Tell the offshore bankers that they have had enough - these people are the real criminals - third world countries have become poorer because of the loans under the Fractional Reserve System - I read somewhere that one country had 10% destitute, homeless and impoverished - the government borrowed to help these people out - loans under the same system that we borrowed - because this country is struggling to service the loan the number of destitute, homeless and impoverished has risen from 10% to 40% - unfortunately I cannot recall which country it is.

These banks and bankers, the Federal Reserve and others are the true criminals against society. We need to boot them out, to annex all their assets in this country into State ownership and ensure for all time that New Zealand and its resources belong to us and those who follow us.

Stockpile our own gold and other resources, limit trade so that the outgoings are greater than the incomings, be more self sufficient, ban all foreign ownership - lease yes - ownership no.

More rights for the little guy - whether he be a shore based fisherman (throw the huge joint fishing vetures out) a hunter in the hills, a Tramper, recreational fisherman, Gold fossicker and miner - in short New Zealand and its wealth and resouces for the people of the place, the ordinary citizens.

Good on Dotcom - Sue the bastards for their back teeth.

YOU could go on and on - I guess I had better take a leaf out of your book and quit while I am ahead haha
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Posted : Saturday, 30 June 2012 9:57:14 AM(UTC)
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If you need to know anything about the federal reserve, global bankers etc etc and what they are up too check out infowars.com or prisonplanet.com ,Gerald Celente at trendsresearch.com is always great too listen too as well.
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Posted : Monday, 2 July 2012 1:53:05 PM(UTC)
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Posted : Thursday, 12 July 2012 2:48:05 PM(UTC)
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Lucky tourist finds nugget up from the Kawarau mining center http://www.odt.co.nz/you...get-thought-be-worth-500

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Posted : Thursday, 12 July 2012 3:45:21 PM(UTC)
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Wher do you suppose you get 500 dollars for that nugget! Oh I know in dream land!!!!
And now....On sandy beaches and muddy soil, rings and coins await my coil!