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Shilo		Posted : Sunday, 16 March 2014 12:43:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 29/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 573 Location: Kawhia Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 285 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Buying 2nd had detectors is still Ok but much safer if the original receipt can be supplied. This way the retailer that originally sold it new can be traced and matched to the detector manufacturers list of dealers. So for those of us who have brought new - don't throw out the receipt as it could be handy to prove that it is legit.
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jimmy bedrock		Posted : Sunday, 16 March 2014 9:07:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 242 times Was thanked: 179 time(s) in 104 post(s)		thanks for all your comments. I just wanted to share my story so everyone knows what can happen if you don't buy new from a dealer or get original receipt with purchase. Its gay that Whites told me it was real when they must of known about counterfeit serial numbers there for wouldn't have a clue if it was real or not. I am sick of dealing with Whites and I am shore they are sick of me to. Im over it. looking forward to my first detect in the goldfields with a new detector after a year of fail. Buyer beware... peace:) Edited by user Monday, 17 March 2014 6:59:11 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

gavin		Posted : Wednesday, 19 March 2014 4:28:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Administrators, Registered Joined: 20/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,326 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 736 times Was thanked: 535 time(s) in 287 post(s)		Sorry to hear about the duff luck mate. At least you know the reason wasn't you that you couldn't find gold!
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jimmy bedrock		Posted : Wednesday, 19 March 2014 5:54:54 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 242 times Was thanked: 179 time(s) in 104 post(s)		ha yer at least I have some good spots to go back to. I told you something was up with that detector. The only detecting I have ever done down south was with your gold bug ,thanks. I will have to miss Easter trip and save up for a new detector:( Next trip will be Christmas now. I need to get some beach gold over winter or I mite die of gold fever:)

rgmcbrid		Posted : Wednesday, 9 April 2014 3:24:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 3/06/2010(UTC) Posts: 583 Location: Southland Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 180 time(s) in 140 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Shilo Buying 2nd had detectors is still Ok but much safer if the original receipt can be supplied. This way the retailer that originally sold it new can be traced and matched to the detector manufacturers list of dealers. So for those of us who have brought new - don't throw out the receipt as it could be handy to prove that it is legit. Along these lines; as the Fisher dealer in New Zealand feel free to check with us when you are thinking about buying a used Fisher detector. We would be happy to verify that someone got a machine from us. Also, warranties generally require the original receipt so hang to them and know that in many cases (like Fisher) the warranty does not transfer if the detector is sold to someone else.
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jimmy bedrock		Posted : Thursday, 10 April 2014 7:59:59 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 242 times Was thanked: 179 time(s) in 104 post(s)		After reading my story I'm shore Fisher will give me a great deal on a new gold bug pro ay:) I have just saved up enough for a new gold detector for my birthday tomorrow...lol:)

rgmcbrid		Posted : Thursday, 10 April 2014 4:19:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 3/06/2010(UTC) Posts: 583 Location: Southland Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 180 time(s) in 140 post(s)		Absolutely! But don't tell anyone else or they will expect the same :)
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Jimmy		Posted : Saturday, 10 May 2014 4:33:55 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 9/05/2014(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: Oregon		Seriously, someone you thought was your friend set you up to get ripped off (by their real friend) and you blame the other side of the planet ? Why not hold the thieves responsible ? Sorry, I'm sure they both got a cut of your money and had beers & laughs at your expense. Obviously you are their friend, not turning them both in to the police. Fisher, Garrett, Mine Lab are far more China counterfeited compared to any other detector brands, look it up on Alibaba.com. Jim
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jimmy bedrock		Posted : Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:39:28 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 242 times Was thanked: 179 time(s) in 104 post(s)		Im over it bro. I have a awesome Fisher gold bug pro. Thanks for your concern and yer im shore they will be having plenty of Chinese beers and laughs after selling millions of GMT counterfeits.LSHMSFOAIDMT Edited by user Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:43:06 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

Jimmy		Posted : Saturday, 10 May 2014 7:32:11 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 9/05/2014(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: Oregon		That is great! Hope you didn't have your (so called) friends sucker you into buying a Fisher Counterfeit. There are a whole lot more Fisher Counterfeits out there, especially in your region. Dubai claims to have over 10,000 Fisher Counterfeits at one Retail Dealership alone. Fisher, Mine Lab, and Garrett are preferred by counterfeiters as they often have little to no Intellectual Property Right protections. Heads up, if it sells anywhere, China is counterfeiting it. That includes Cars, Trucks, Pr-Fab Houses, and entire Corporations right down to the employee uniforms.
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jimmy bedrock		Posted : Saturday, 10 May 2014 7:45:51 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 242 times Was thanked: 179 time(s) in 104 post(s)		I think if I asked Fisher if it was counterfeit they wouldn't tell me it was real if they didn't know. But then again I thought that about Whites lol. yep China is f@#$n USA hard alright:) you think Obama would do something..

Jimmy		Posted : Saturday, 10 May 2014 10:51:21 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 9/05/2014(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: Oregon		Not exclusive to USA, the entire world. Like I said if it sells anywhere, China is counterfeiting it. They are duplicating authentic Fisher serial numbers too. They are also counterfeiting artifacts and old coins and passing them off as authentic.
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Iggyrulz		Posted : Sunday, 11 May 2014 10:55:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 21/12/2013(UTC) Posts: 438 Location: Dunedin Thanks: 501 times Was thanked: 327 time(s) in 196 post(s)		Hey Jimmy,slightly off topic here but had the car in for new 'CV' joints all done by a good mechanic. About 3-4 weeks later to my surprise the old tell tale clicking noise started to return. Took it back to the mechanic, for him to tell me that they were cheap imitation parts from China. He was a bit shocked as well at how long they didn't last, but recons they cant tell the difference between the genuine and the copies. They must have been made from grey plastic or something to only last a month. Cheers Iggy

jimmy bedrock		Posted : Monday, 12 May 2014 7:41:41 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 339 Thanks: 242 times Was thanked: 179 time(s) in 104 post(s)		That sux Iggy. Did the mechanic take them off you and leave you with nothing lol:) at least they weren't air bags. soon China will be counterfeiting rice and bad drivers LOL:):0

NUGGY		Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2014 5:56:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: greymouth Thanks: 85 times Was thanked: 76 time(s) in 58 post(s)		Hi Jimmy, Still totally sucks that they have taken your property. Say if you had got in touch with whoever sold the detector to you, and they said - sorry didn't realise it was a fake, return it and we will refund your money. What are you supposed to do? I would join that Whites forum and paste in all the comments from here in a post on that forum. I am another that would not buy a Whites detector after hearing how you were treated, specially after they said serial number was genuine. Imagine how many warranty repairs & how much postage they would save if they just sent out a letter the same as yours for every faulty detector they were sent, maybe they do. NUGGY

Shilo		Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2014 10:34:46 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 29/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 573 Location: Kawhia Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 285 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Originally Posted by: NUGGY Imagine how many warranty repairs & how much postage they would save if they just sent out a letter the same as yours for every faulty detector they were sent, maybe they do. NUGGY NO they don't. In fact they do the complete opposite, I had a faulty coil on my V3i and when I emailed Whites to enquire about the process of a warranty claim the simply sent one over to NZ straight away no questions asked and without requiring the old one returned to them. I too am interested in the reason why Whites said Jimmy Bedrocks detector was not a fake when he enquired with the serial number BUT to Whites and any other company in a similar situation keeping the fake detector was within their rights. To them the fake is an illegal product and the last thing they want is it to be sold on and continue to circulate. Like shown with some comments in this thread a fake can ruin a reputation of a good company. Before dishing Whites reputation for service and warranties - do some research and you will find this particular case is a one off. In every other report that I have come across and in my personal experience their service as been exemplary.
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NUGGY		Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2014 12:09:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: greymouth Thanks: 85 times Was thanked: 76 time(s) in 58 post(s)		Yeah that was just a throwaway line, but keeping Jimmy's property is what I really dislike - and I don't see how it's "within their rights". If you owned a replica Ford Cobra; with a NZ made fiberglass body and a Lexus v8 motor - and took it to a Ford dealer to get it serviced would they be "within their rights" to keep it because it was not Genuine? Edited by user Wednesday, 14 May 2014 12:12:58 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

oroplata		Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2014 1:12:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		It's an unlicenced fake with their brand name all over it, so once in their hands they can seize/destroy it. If customs catch these things coming over the border, they can do the same. White should be proactively helping customs identify these fakes coming in from China - they may have even sent your one to Customs to help in training. Think of it as being similar as receiving stolen goods. Even if you didn't know it was stolen merchandise, it can be taken off you and you are out of pocket. Just a shame Whites didn't do a better PR job in this situation.
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Jimmy		Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2014 11:25:58 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 9/05/2014(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: Oregon		Nuggy, So what you are saying exactly is... if thieves steel your Ford Car, then the Ford Motor Company owes you a new car at no charge? Not the thieves? Really ? Wow, that would be great, I would never lock anything up! It is simple, the thieves are responsible, no one else. If they returned it, he could be arrested and/or fined, same as illegal drugs or any other stolen property. As well they could be arrested and/or fined, it is against the law to ship stolen property. No one in their right mind would knowingly ship a counterfeit anywhere, much less own one.
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NUGGY		Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2014 3:16:43 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: greymouth Thanks: 85 times Was thanked: 76 time(s) in 58 post(s)		Jimmy - WTF - that's nothing to do with what I said. I believe there are remedial reading classes available.

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