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One handful of dirt - the results

Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 10 June 2011 4:08:24 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		chchfossiker wrote: there is some bloody good post latlytrying to soak up as much as possible keep em coming guys haha cheers It isnt so much soaking up as getting out there to do it - a girlfriend once many moons ago said to me that practice makes perfect - I assume she was referring to gold mining! You can only learn 'so much' from a forum - the rest is getting to learn to 'read the land'learning where the likely spots are, learning how best to recover the gold etc The sad thing about a forum is that everyone is here - those I wouldnt trust as far as I would kick them; opportunists, thieves and halfwits and there are also many here I would be happy to ride the rails with but until you meet a person and look into their eyes and see the inner being you cannot differentiate one from the other although much can be gleaned by what a person writes or says. I have already decided that a couple of people on here will never get one cent of change from me and I would not give them the time of day and if I did then it would be to send them on a wild goose chase preferably to Purgatory BUT there are some really decent guys here and I am more than happy to assist them...indeed one fellow on here is a great friend of mine with a key to my gate and free to go there as he sees fit. Edited by user Friday, 10 June 2011 4:14:30 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

criticol		Posted : Friday, 10 June 2011 4:22:02 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 234 Location: coromandel Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 66 time(s) in 48 post(s)		More "TRUTH" Argggggghhhhhh I cant stand any more! So I`m going to bed-----Night all. Cheers---Colin.
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madsonicboating		Posted : Friday, 10 June 2011 4:56:27 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 21/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 674 Thanks: 187 times Was thanked: 157 time(s) in 127 post(s)		Holy Moly are you sure you didn't pick up 3 handfuls of gold and just chuck the dirt out!!?? :) Beautiful!! Love the old gun too very nice piece of history that!
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 10 June 2011 5:09:59 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		criticol wrote: More "TRUTH" Argggggghhhhhh I cant stand any more! So I`m going to bed-----Night all. Cheers---Colin. Goodnight Colin I will be up for a while yet - nightowl I am - come to think of it many moons ago in the early 1990s I remember picking up a gold nugget by torchlight at about 1.00 am when I went for a mid night wander down to the creek. Cheers

fastangler		Posted : Friday, 10 June 2011 5:58:24 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 1/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 37 Location: christchurch Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 9 post(s)		No reason it cant be - I liked the way you went to Danseys - an entire day from Christchurch deserves some reward methinks. One thing I learnt was that if I didnt get anything in one spot then to quickly pass on to the next. If you open a crevice and get nothing then dont work it all - open it up along its length in different spots to see what might turn up, go to different places - if you find a few colours somewhere then keep that place in mind but look at other places as well. Keep looking until you find somewhere which gives regular and reasonable returns - keep it quiet, share photos by all means but dont let anyone know where it came from...until its all worked out. The reason for that lies in the fact that the forums are followed by many a stalker who would capitalise on YOUR success - leak the location when you have finished then their reward is merely the curds and whey and you have the cream. some great advice there thanks mate

chchfossiker		Posted : Friday, 10 June 2011 8:00:01 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 151 Location: christchurch Thanks: 9 times Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 12 post(s)		yea i understand what your saying .from reading peoples posts you can get quite an understanding on what sort of person they are but that only go's so far as anyone can be anyone "online" until you can meet them and see if there a good bugga.yes getting out there and doing it is exactly what i plan on doing. and coming into winter when the snow comes and hopefully the rivers/creeks stay low for awhile before the snow melts ill be able to push further up and a little deeper into some spots .

Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 5:43:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		chchfossiker wrote: yea i understand what your saying .from reading peoples posts you can get quite an understanding on what sort of person they are but that only go's so far as anyone can be anyone "online" until you can meet them and see if there a good bugga.yes getting out there and doing it is exactly what i plan on doing. and coming into winter when the snow comes and hopefully the rivers/creeks stay low for awhile before the snow melts ill be able to push further up and a little deeper into some spots . Yes it is as I sad - you have to meet them to get to know them and even then you may not know them. I let a fellow get closer to me over 25 years - a full 25 years before I finally took him to my spots - and then he began going back on his own behind my back...something I would never ever dream of doing. Needless to say I told him what I thought of him and he has sucked the Kumara with me. Winter is not such a hot idea either - remember that in the hills streams get frozen, bedrock becomes a sheet of ice. Snow and ice cover unknown and often deadly obstacles. Twice in winter I have walked along then next moment broken through a thin snow/ice cover into an exploratory hole, up to my neck in freezing water. In the mountains you cannot afford to get soaked like that in sub zero temperatures as hypothermia can set in quickly. I have also been caught out in the mountains a couple of times by snow storms. These were not forecast and in the whiteouts I didnt have a clue where I was going and ended up a fair distance form where I wanted to. Of course all smart young fellows now have GPS devices - marvellous things those - but they will be even better when they detect the under runners covered in snow, mine shafts and other hidden obstacles readily apparent in summer but hidden in winter.

chchfossiker		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 5:55:44 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 151 Location: christchurch Thanks: 9 times Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 12 post(s)		maby i be better going to some more easy spots like my last trip .and plan the big trips for spring. 25 years then he go's behing your back.what a coward

Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 6:16:24 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		chchfossiker wrote: maby i be better going to some more easy spots like my last trip .and plan the big trips for spring. 25 years then he go's behing your back.what a coward No harm in going out in winter - I used to BUT it is cold, it can be risky and you have to be prepared for every eventuality. Have you got a 4WD - if so then I assume you would go into 4WD territory - you need extra blankets, first aid kit, extra food and all the gear for an extended stay if things turn rough. I was trapped for eight days once due to inclement weather but we were comfortable with heaps of food etc so no harm done. There are a lot of easy spots to go to in winter so do your research and go to them but dont try for the high mountains or anywhere where sudden bad weather can catch you out or where you are going to be slipping and sliding on ice. Danseys Pass would be OK or try prospecting in some of the other goldfields, Maerowhenua, Garigaldi, Shag River or where ever fancy takes you. Better to go out during milder spells when there isnt somuch ice - can sure be icey up Danseys Pass way.

criticol		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 8:49:26 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 234 Location: coromandel Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 66 time(s) in 48 post(s)		Now theres some " DAMN GOOD ADVICE FROM LAMMY," for a few of you people to tuck away behind your ear, for future reference, it can be downright dangerous out there, espesially by yourself! So you need to be cautious. Take care---Colin.
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 9:14:26 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		criticol wrote: Now theres some " DAMN GOOD ADVICE FROM LAMMY," for a few of you people to tuck away behind your ear, for future reference, it can be downright dangerous out there, espesially by yourself! So you need to be cautious. Take care---Colin. Advice Colin, as you are well aware comes from experience and experience for the sensible ones comes from being there and being cautious, experience for me was definitely trial and error...mostly error first followed by the trial. The trial generally was driving myself to hospital! Its sort of dificult driving 60 miles after shooting yourself through the paw with a .22, very messy driving after you have sliced an artery no less (I kid you not) with a sharp knife, and exceptionally painful driving a Landrover after a boulder has broken your leg - I think that the only thing I learnt from the latter is that screaming underwater is very difficult! Nowdays I always have company...except now and again on my own place I go out on my own.

criticol		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 9:26:55 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 234 Location: coromandel Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 66 time(s) in 48 post(s)		Hi Lammerlaw. Could rightfully Say, " Been there, Done that". Even the artery one, except that was digging too enthusiastically into a Bottle dump in wet soggy swamp ground.( no gloves, sliced wrist, MY FAULT!(got out though through a bit of a "KIWI" Brainstorm. Regards---keep well---Colin.
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 10:58:46 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		criticol wrote: Hi Lammerlaw. Could rightfully Say, " Been there, Done that". Even the artery one, except that was digging too enthusiastically into a Bottle dump in wet soggy swamp ground.( no gloves, sliced wrist, MY FAULT!(got out though through a bit of a "KIWI" Brainstorm. Regards---keep well---Colin. The artery one was gold mining but saw a large pig so shot it and skewered myself in hand while skinning it! Yes I did have company but he had gone white like one of those marble angels on a tombstone and was going in funny circles making funny sounds so I had both the gushing blood to contend with plus him and ended up with me having to drive while he was in a state of shock at my condition and the blood over everything. As for bottle dumps - loved them. Used to get large amounts of bottles and old Chinese jars on my place. Not so long ago my son and I walked through a patch of native Beech on my place and a pig had kindly rooted up an early gold rush era black bottle...found a Cottage ink bottle with 'Regd 69' embossed on it in a Chinese hut on my place as well as torpedo and marble bottles...like my bottles! Edited by user Saturday, 11 June 2011 11:09:02 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

kiwijw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 11:32:44 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		Lammerlaw wrote: My girlfriend had given me the bums rush a year before and her last words were "Who would want you - youve got nothing" Hi there Graeme, Sorry to hear this. She must have been a very shallow person & in the relationship for the wrong reasons. Or final words of bitterness to leave a sting of venom in your heart. Lammerlaw wrote: It does prove though that the gold is still there and each and every one of us can get it. We fail to get gold because we persist in the same places, we dont know where or how to look. Nowdays my son uses my metal detector - he knows how to use it, he has good ears for the different tones it makes and above all he knows where to look - he goes to places he has never been to and gets good gold - you can do it as well, anyone can. So no I am not a gold magnet - I just knew where to look! No truer word spoken :) Lammerlaw wrote: It isnt so much soaking up as getting out there to do it - a girlfriend once many moons ago said to me that practice makes perfect - I assume she was referring to gold mining! You can only learn 'so much' from a forum - the rest is getting to learn to 'read the land'learning where the likely spots are, learning how best to recover the gold etc The sad thing about a forum is that everyone is here - those I wouldnt trust as far as I would kick them; opportunists, thieves and halfwits and there are also many here I would be happy to ride the rails with but until you meet a person and look into their eyes and see the inner being you cannot differentiate one from the other although much can be gleaned by what a person writes or says. I have already decided that a couple of people on here will never get one cent of change from me and I would not give them the time of day and if I did then it would be to send them on a wild goose chase preferably to Purgatory BUT there are some really decent guys here and I am more than happy to assist them...indeed one fellow on here is a great friend of mine with a key to my gate and free to go there as he sees fit. Lammerlaw wrote: Yes it is as I sad - you have to meet them to get to know them and even then you may not know them. I let a fellow get closer to me over 25 years - a full 25 years before I finally took him to my spots - and then he began going back on his own behind my back...something I would never ever dream of doing. Needless to say I told him what I thought of him and he has sucked the Kumara with me. Thank you Graeme for these words. Reflects what I have been trying to say in regards to naming EXACT places to go to on a public forum & why they shouldnt be. Once up on a public forum it is there for the whole world to see. Sorry to those of you who are deserving but there are scumbags out there, just like in real life there are users & abusers & losers that are only in it for there own gain & you can guarantee they will give absoultly nothing back. The most successful of "prospectors" will be those that do it by the hard yards. Spend the many hours & days of reading & reasearch & the countless times out in the field. Often for little to no return. But over time you will learn where to look & what to look for & the rewards will get better. As I said in an earlier post, observation & imagination are the prospectors two greatest "tools". It is all too easy for the "new chum" to ask & expect to be told where to go (not really likely to be given) but the reward of doing it for yourself makes the reward of finding all that much sweeter. Having your times of reaseach & work out in the field pay off & gives you a real boost of confidence & self achievement. Thanks Graeme for all your contributions & hugely interesting & informative posts & pics. Happy hunting JW :)

Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 12:28:26 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Re 'The Girlfriend' - she used to come with me gold mining but we didnt seem to get any gold mining done - boy was she a stunner...back then. Loved her heaps...but she was also a gold miner - but in a different way. All things turn out for the best - she got married after that and had two kids - they were called 'The Cabbage Patch kids' because they looked like the Cabbage Patch kids. I am glad I got 'MY' kids later on in life. Met her a couple of years ago and by then she had found out a bit about me, the gold, buying the very property she used to camp on with me and had said tome that one day she would like to own it...in the end I did own it and she missed out. She wanted me to leave my home here to start anew with her - once bitten twice shy - by her anyway! Funny thing is she dont look like she used to then...28 years takes its toll on some! Back to the topic!...where were we...had something to do with gold didnt it?

madsonicboating		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 1:34:53 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 21/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 674 Thanks: 187 times Was thanked: 157 time(s) in 127 post(s)		hahaa funny topic! Yes ex girlfriends can be a bruise on the mind. Lammerlaw you sound like a bit of a hard case when are you gonna write a book on all these hijinks and mishaps?? I'm certainly enjoying Hammy's gold at the mo but one with a "Barry Crump" edge would be a good read too. I'd pay for a copy!! Good info RE taking appropiate gear too..lol me and some mates always take heaps in the HOPE that we will get snowed in somewhere and be trapped off the grid somewhere. No nagging females, kids etc ahhhh. If you'd seen my hilux on my 1st trip to Arrowtown you'd swear there was 4 people going not jst me. The spare battery and Jump cables I took even helped me at Mace town with the severe frost in the morning...and that was March not winter!!
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 2:03:04 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		madsonicboating wrote: hahaa funny topic! Yes ex girlfriends can be a bruise on the mind. Lammerlaw you sound like a bit of a hard case when are you gonna write a book on all these hijinks and mishaps?? I'm certainly enjoying Hammy's gold at the mo but one with a "Barry Crump" edge would be a good read too. I'd pay for a copy!! Good info RE taking appropiate gear too..lol me and some mates always take heaps in the HOPE that we will get snowed in somewhere and be trapped off the grid somewhere. No nagging females, kids etc ahhhh. If you'd seen my hilux on my 1st trip to Arrowtown you'd swear there was 4 people going not jst me. The spare battery and Jump cables I took even helped me at Mace town with the severe frost in the morning...and that was March not winter!! Its a great place Macetown - love up there and took my older daughter and son up there for a holiday a while ago...but its changed...its all politically correct up there now - the Department of Constipation have buggered it with notices, fences, orders as to where you can go and what you can do, every bloke and his iron horse goes there so there aint no privacy...and worse still you cant take your heater (gun) When I used to go there twice a year you could shoot rabbits, goats and quail so didnt need to take meat. Had my Landrover washed away once as I had to rescue some scouts who were trapped there - she was a petrol job but by putting a blanket across the front, radiator etc you created a big air bubble under the bonnet and the donkey didnt die. One of the fords was actually up over the spare tyre on the bonnet but she still kept going but unfortunately the current buggered things. When I was up there last time with two of my kids it rained hard and we were last out - I used the blanket again and we caught up with the diesel in front of us which had died in one of the fords - so theres a hint for the 4WD people who havent got a snorkel...we didnt have them in my day...except for skuba diving and in submarines. Still got a Landrover...also got one of them Hilux things...blasted thing keeps stopping at intersections. I dont mind getting trapped in places - love the snow - prefer to get trapped in the house up at my place - heaps of food, heaps of cough medicine and heaps of bullets to while away the boredom salivating tin cans, more tin cans and creating false signals for the metal detector poachers by salivating the landscape with lead!

chchfossiker		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 2:13:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 151 Location: christchurch Thanks: 9 times Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 12 post(s)		Lammerlaw wrote: madsonicboating wrote: hahaa funny topic! Yes ex girlfriends can be a bruise on the mind. Lammerlaw you sound like a bit of a hard case when are you gonna write a book on all these hijinks and mishaps?? I'm certainly enjoying Hammy's gold at the mo but one with a "Barry Crump" edge would be a good read too. I'd pay for a copy!! Good info RE taking appropiate gear too..lol me and some mates always take heaps in the HOPE that we will get snowed in somewhere and be trapped off the grid somewhere. No nagging females, kids etc ahhhh. If you'd seen my hilux on my 1st trip to Arrowtown you'd swear there was 4 people going not jst me. The spare battery and Jump cables I took even helped me at Mace town with the severe frost in the morning...and that was March not winter!! Its a great place Macetown - love up there and took my older daughter and son up there for a holiday a while ago...but its changed...its all politically correct up there now - the Department of Constipation have buggered it with notices, fences, orders as to where you can go and what you can do, every bloke and his iron horse goes there so there aint no privacy...and worse still you cant take your heater (gun) When I used to go there twice a year you could shoot rabbits, goats and quail so didnt need to take meat. Had my Landrover washed away once as I had to rescue some scouts who were trapped there - she was a petrol job but by putting a blanket across the front, radiator etc you created a big air bubble under the bonnet and the donkey didnt die. One of the fords was actually up over the spare tyre on the bonnet but she still kept going but unfortunately the current buggered things. When I was up there last time with two of my kids it rained hard and we were last out - I used the blanket again and we caught up with the diesel in front of us which had died in one of the fords - so theres a hint for the 4WD people who havent got a snorkel...we didnt have them in my day...except for skuba diving and in submarines. Still got a Landrover...also got one of them Hilux things...blasted thing keeps stopping at intersections. I dont mind getting trapped in places - love the snow - prefer to get trapped in the house up at my place - heaps of food, heaps of cough medicine and heaps of bullets to while away the boredom salivating tin cans, more tin cans and creating false signals for the metal detector poachers by salivating the landscape with lead sounds like yourv the got life down there.good trick with the false signals haha

madsonicboating		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 2:37:09 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 21/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 674 Thanks: 187 times Was thanked: 157 time(s) in 127 post(s)		Ha! i hate to break it to ya but most lead comes in as a high signal and gold is low signal. Gold is a low signal, almost the same as all pulltabs off cans, and some larger rusty irons. Most detectorists (or me anyway) get to know a lot of ID ranges after digging the first 2 or 3 thousand pulltabs (all my detecting so far has been in old parks, showgrounds etc for coins and relics) in saying that I still get trapped as the treaure hunter in me can simply NOT leave a signal in the ground, just in case...I have actually dug unfired and fired old slugs from 1850's enfield rifles...same bullets that were used in the maori wars etc..unlike most lead these ones sit in my treasure chest :) Graeme the reason ya hilux stops at intersections is called brakes hahaa something an old landy would struggle with after a dip through the water :):) GO HILUX! :) In my Lada niva days we used chip bags on the dizzy! ahhhh the good ol la de daaa days Good trick alright tho...I like the way ya think!
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 11 June 2011 2:38:23 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		chchfossicker I dont use a metal detector up there - haha! Never did use a metal detector for anything other than racecourses, showgrounds, picnic grounds, playgrounds and other peoples backyards! I used a dredge and just swam around in silly circles crevicing and nowdays just potter about...I dont need to look for gold - I have an agreement with my son that he uses my detector on a fifty/fifty basis and I just sit holding out my hand! Thats the theory - now the truth is I am too much of a soft touch to take my share...so hes doing OK! Edited by user Saturday, 11 June 2011 2:39:20 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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