Paydirt.co.nz

New Zealand Gold Prospecting & Metal Detecting Forums Archive

 

The forum has moved to community.paydirt.co.nz, see you there!

This forum is now an archive to preserve the knowledge and finds posted here.

Auckland domain
grubby  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 11:07:59 AM(UTC)
grubby

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC)
Posts: 130
Man
New Zealand
Location: west auckland

Thanks: 13 times
Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)
Ok here we go. I have talked to the right people at auckland city council. District planning and heritage etc.
Metal detecting is allowed at the domain but digging is not allowed. I guess that is better than nothing.
Cornwall park is owned by a trust and is also a heritage site. The only part of Cornwall park not listed is the BBQ area.
Large fines can be given to people digging in listed heritage areas...... We are talking tens of thousands of dollars. Even up to 150 grand.
Back to top
Mudwiggle  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 1:20:07 PM(UTC)
Mudwiggle

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered, Moderators
Joined: 22/10/2013(UTC)
Posts: 742
New Zealand

Thanks: 182 times
Was thanked: 683 time(s) in 317 post(s)
Slightly OT, but bear with me...

How do you guys work in the area of listed sites, or do you just give them a very wide berth?

I'm keen on having a sniff around in the vicinity of some of the older sites up here in the BOI - but in the UK you can just about be nailed for merely thinking about MD'ing whilst within sight of some monument or another.

To clarify - I'm talking about outside the relevant DOC/HPT boundaries, not the sites themselves. They are all plugged into my GPS (+50m margin of 'safety') so there are no problems there!

Is it worth writing a very formal letter to Big Bother (sic) explaining how very sensible I am, blah blah....?

I would rather do this during daylight rather than in the wee smalls - gives a (slightly) better impression when I get questioned by well-meaning types.
Back to top
Metal Kiwi  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 1:36:32 PM(UTC)
Metal Kiwi

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,210
Man
Location: Auckland

Thanks: 498 times
Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Mudwiggle Go to Quoted Post
Slightly OT, but bear with me...

How do you guys work in the area of listed sites, or do you just give them a very wide berth?

I'm keen on having a sniff around in the vicinity of some of the older sites up here in the BOI - but in the UK you can just about be nailed for merely thinking about MD'ing whilst within sight of some monument or another.

To clarify - I'm talking about outside the relevant DOC/HPT boundaries, not the sites themselves. They are all plugged into my GPS (+50m margin of 'safety') so there are no problems there!

Is it worth writing a very formal letter to Big Bother (sic) explaining how very sensible I am, blah blah....?

I would rather do this during daylight rather than in the wee smalls - gives a (slightly) better impression when I get questioned by well-meaning types.




I assume you mean Historic Places Trust listed sites- If so then I suggest wide berth period. For 1) You are very likely to get caught at any hour and 2) after all they are a historic site for a reason.
For any land around the listed sites you are probably needing permission from the owner who may be the local farmer or possibly the Anglican or Catholic churches for some properties up north. I checked one out a while back and decided it was not worth the hassle to get the permission.

MK
Back to top
WWW BLOG
Mudwiggle  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 2:36:37 PM(UTC)
Mudwiggle

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered, Moderators
Joined: 22/10/2013(UTC)
Posts: 742
New Zealand

Thanks: 182 times
Was thanked: 683 time(s) in 317 post(s)
Had no intention of even glancing at the HPT sites themselves. I'm talking about the area outside the HPT boundary.
I know the adjoining landowner, and he couldn't care less about me MDing on his land (His words were a little more rustic, but you get the gist).

Ahh buggrit, you're right MK - Not worth the hassle of trying to prove I haven't jumped the fence. I'll stick to homesteading.
Back to top
Metal Kiwi  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 2:51:52 PM(UTC)
Metal Kiwi

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,210
Man
Location: Auckland

Thanks: 498 times
Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)
Your probably wise MW. Must be bloody tempting though. :-)
What about following the tractor next time they disc the field. Onlookers would think you
were sowing seed. :-)


MK
Back to top
WWW BLOG
Mudwiggle  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 3:03:29 PM(UTC)
Mudwiggle

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered, Moderators
Joined: 22/10/2013(UTC)
Posts: 742
New Zealand

Thanks: 182 times
Was thanked: 683 time(s) in 317 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Metal Kiwi Go to Quoted Post
Must be bloody tempting though. :-)


Not wrong. Found some old, old aerials that show a linear feature near the site (outside the boundary) Was figuring that HPT would have (should have) seen it and already crawled over it, but last report I can find was early 80's with no mention of it, and MD technology has come a long way since then...

I'll definitely ask "Mr. Smith" when he plans on next reseeding that block :)

Think I'll knock off early and go and pick up some petty cash at the beach to calm down :)
Back to top
Metal Kiwi  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 3:33:04 PM(UTC)
Metal Kiwi

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,210
Man
Location: Auckland

Thanks: 498 times
Was thanked: 484 time(s) in 322 post(s)
"Think I'll knock off early"

Excellent thinking.

MK
Back to top
WWW BLOG
grubby  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 7:36:21 PM(UTC)
grubby

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC)
Posts: 130
Man
New Zealand
Location: west auckland

Thanks: 13 times
Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)
Not being able to dig would be unbearable. I think I will just have to avoid the domain. Imagine if you were swingin away and had a great signal and couldn't dig it?!?
Back to top
Goldnut  
Posted : Friday, 1 November 2013 11:52:38 PM(UTC)
Goldnut

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/08/2011(UTC)
Posts: 461
Man
Location: Auckland

Thanks: 48 times
Was thanked: 95 time(s) in 92 post(s)
I wouldn't be too afraid of the domain... just stay out of the gardens... I went on a day trip and had no one question me...
Fisher F2 11DD coil, Garrett Pro-Pointer ----> My Blog: http://goldnut.blogspot.co.nz
Back to top
BLOG
grubby  
Posted : Saturday, 2 November 2013 7:11:02 AM(UTC)
grubby

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC)
Posts: 130
Man
New Zealand
Location: west auckland

Thanks: 13 times
Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)
It would only take one complaint from the thousands of people who go there and before you know it there would be no detectors whatsoever allowed in the domain. I would comply with the no dig policy or risk ruining it for everyone.
Back to top
Goldnut  
Posted : Saturday, 2 November 2013 8:02:26 PM(UTC)
Goldnut

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/08/2011(UTC)
Posts: 461
Man
Location: Auckland

Thanks: 48 times
Was thanked: 95 time(s) in 92 post(s)
I mean the other areas... not the no dig spots... I wouldn't ever think about digging in a no dig spot just because I would not want to leave a bad taste in the public's eye...
Fisher F2 11DD coil, Garrett Pro-Pointer ----> My Blog: http://goldnut.blogspot.co.nz
Back to top
BLOG
creamer  
Posted : Sunday, 3 November 2013 9:41:51 AM(UTC)
creamer

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 2,022
Man
Location: Bay of Islands

Thanks: 2289 times
Was thanked: 525 time(s) in 391 post(s)
There are plenty of hot spots up here that are holding good finds. Some of these areas are HPT land and the temptation to give them a buzz is quite tempting. The only way is to seek permission and mostly one will be told no here, no biggy. Best just to stick to where you know best as the repocussions of being caught where you shouldnt could end up worse than one would think.
Worth letting yourself be known and asking anyhows, you never no what may arise from it. I went and asked DOC one time if i could help on there archeological digs and they said yes. If i had of followed it up i probably would have been in.

.
Garrett Ace 350
Xpointer



www.nzfossickers.co.nz
Back to top
WWW
grubby  
Posted : Sunday, 3 November 2013 3:40:48 PM(UTC)
grubby

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC)
Posts: 130
Man
New Zealand
Location: west auckland

Thanks: 13 times
Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)
All of the Domain is a no dig zone.
Back to top
Goldnut  
Posted : Sunday, 3 November 2013 9:22:15 PM(UTC)
Goldnut

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/08/2011(UTC)
Posts: 461
Man
Location: Auckland

Thanks: 48 times
Was thanked: 95 time(s) in 92 post(s)
Thanks for that... I had planned another trip over the summer... but no longer... I don't think that they realise how harmless we detecotrists are... it's not like we leave massive holes in the ground... I make sure to treat the ground well so that when I leave there is no noticeable trace... oh well... it's still good to know...
Fisher F2 11DD coil, Garrett Pro-Pointer ----> My Blog: http://goldnut.blogspot.co.nz
Back to top
BLOG