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my understanding of the law is that if something is not granted on the date you are fossicking, and you have permission from the land owner, then you can fossick away to your hearts content. Even the small guys cannot legally stop you and any threat of violence of other wise will be handled by the police and the permit submitter will most likley be NOT granted the submitted land. If the permit has been granted then nope you can't go on without the permit owners permission full stop.

Correct??

Careful ... although Glass Earth are involved, doesn't mean they are the only interested party.

My uncle does commercial mining & Glass Earth are partners on some of his claims.

For example, Glass earth are working one of his claims & he takes a % of the profits since he originally found the site.

When i last spoke to him, he was having HUGE problems with Heritage organizations interferring & holding up claims.

Apparently, if he finds an old pot or something, he must report it ... then the heritage people put a stop to work until they've fully researched & examinded the area. That takes months or even years.

True. But if you hold a prospectors license then you can?
msb

There are various types of minerals permits issued by Crown Minerals (incidentally after a recent name change they're now known as New Zealand Petroleum & Minerals).

Regardless of type they only relate to the land identified in the application.

Ordinarily the permit issue is exclusive i.e. if Glass Earth was the holder of a prospecting permit for gold in the Whykickamoocow River, then no one else could legally undertake that activity there.

Probably worth taking a look at their website for further information.

Cheers,
Karl

I find the last contribution interesting as Glass Earth had approached me re entry onto my place. I have had contradictory reports as to what their aerial survey actually found though somewhere here I have a lot of informational they gave me. I had been told of a couple of areas within reasonably close proximity to me and also I think inclusive, maybe, of part of my place where they have a degree of interest.
The irony is that I told Glass Earth they could take some samples I have in the back yard for assay and the fellow took pure white pieces which showed little promise, however I have a small piece of rock with 40 or 50 microscopic colours showing in it and three clearly visible but small pieces. Not far from the spot they came from there is a 'specimen reef' - despite all the gold taken form there plus gold clearly visible in the quartz Glass Earth do not appear to be interested...but I might be wrong.

I know for certain that it would be more than viable to strip the surface and mine it as the gold never ran out but rather mining came to an end for 'political' reasons as much as anything I would think. As for hard rock - doesnt make any difference to me - most of my place has a covenant placed on it to protect it and that will stay but as for the rest - if they found enough maybe/maybe not. I dont need the dollars - did I say that? Actually I do need the dollars (Boat on Trademe $1.5m). To be honest its all a game to me - I watch the world go by and never make any decisions until it is time to do so. It doent really matter whether they want to mine it or not because I will wake up dead one day then who cares! Complacent attitude - its all fun while it lasts! I suppose if they came to me with enough money to buy something better - where theres gold then I might play their game but not interested in any partnership type deals unless I got my share in gold!

Have a look at it - I have been watching it for a year and its my next dream but at the moment I have another project on the go and its eating dollars - no other boat will do! Yes I could sell my property to get it but I am thinking of getting another income from my place all going to plan.

http://www.trademe.co.nz...an/auction-273785309.htm

Before this vessel came on here I bought another rural property so cant afford boats at the moment - besides I havent worked for years so money is getting tight.

Not only, at the time did I turn a dream into reality but it was a dream that was beyond my very wildest dream and as I said it is priorities - no more smoking, no more booze, no more scratchies - hard work and a little good luck.

Right now if anyone wants a dream I would say to go gold mining for a hobby, work hard, do it on the cheap and never sell the stuff unless the sale of an ounce is going to get you two ounces - hoard it, put it aside. Use income from wages to pay costs and above all dont borrow money - do it on the budget you can afford.

I watch all the guys buying fancy dredges and gear - I dont. I wear old clothes and my main underwater dredge will be one of NZs first dating back just on fifty years - I have never upgraded - why? - It works.

Thats how you get your dreams.

I will admit however that I have made some bad decisions - I had two eight foot long by four foot wide aluminium sheets welded into tubes with one pointed end and joined them together to make a super dredge - it never did get made and now it just sits doing nothing...too lazy to sell it! It will probably end up being used for antique cannon target practice in the creek one day! A white elephant now... I did use it to ferry my gear upstream once or twice - tied the underwater dredge underneath it, connected the dredge to the motor and pump and it went up the river just like a slow jet boat! Steered it with a shovel.

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I havent got a masters ticket so if the young ladies were retained my duties as a member of my own crew would be 'quality control officer'

For a year now I have pondered that boat BUT I would have to sell my high country place to get it and my cousin somewhat upset me with his advice - land goes up[ in value and boats tend to sink!

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