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Zman  
Posted : Thursday, 18 July 2013 7:15:39 PM(UTC)
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Ok I am a kiwi living in America not really by choice and there are some gripes I have about the USA though I must admit Americans seem to have more freedoms than kiwis especially regarding prospecting. It is a huge country in comparison to NZ. Now here you can prospect anywhere as long as it is not private property, someone's claim or a national park. You do not need a permit. This seems ridiculous for small timers especially (those who do it now and again) Comments? Lowly commoners we are under the queen. How hard is it to get a permit for small timers?
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Posted : Thursday, 18 July 2013 8:09:56 PM(UTC)
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a lot of paperwork and $$$$ required here.
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Posted : Thursday, 18 July 2013 9:05:33 PM(UTC)
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Fines?
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Posted : Thursday, 18 July 2013 9:46:05 PM(UTC)
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possibly if you are caught. I have contacted nzpam about permits recently and a note at the bottom of their email said if caught illegally prospecting you can be prosecuted, your equipment taken off you and even your vehicle confiscated.

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Posted : Sunday, 21 July 2013 3:11:43 PM(UTC)
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while it may seem a pain that you need a permit to prospect etc, it does have the benefit that areas are controlled to a degree so that someone is reasponsible for the rehabilitation after mining is completed. Driving up the Arrow I can see the workings within the fossicking area where there is no responsible party for the cleanup and rehabilitation, and people have been digging under the road, into the banks etc. I own a claim and as a condition of the process, I have to remain within the wetted bed of the river and cannot undermine any roading etc, as much as I would like to, I can see the benefits of remaining within the wetted bed of the river, as it keeps the mining operations from appearing messy, and hence stops flack from the general public.

While get a mining license does cost money, it does give some robustness to the process so that the environment is considered as part of the activity, and hence the activity has some checks and balances to ensure that best environmental practice is adhered to by the miners where possible. Without these controls we would soon have indiscriminate erosion taking place as people pursued there 'hobby', much like the trail bikers did to the hillsides in pursuit of there hobby. Like it or not, but conservation is part of the heritage of this country, and activities need to respect this underlying philosophy as best they can, and hence the need for a licence system.

Perhaps the answer is that only so much can be claimed for the level of the given operation applying, which may free up more areas for other people claim. For my part, I may be considering a rent or tribute system this year, but havnt fully thought this thru yet, probably only allow a max of 2 or 3 other operations on the license or something like that.
Zman  
Posted : Monday, 22 July 2013 1:08:16 PM(UTC)
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Here in the US desert the only scars that remain are from mines and large scale operations. People are generally good about filling in holes after digging. I agree it is a shame when people destroy the environment and leave rubbish behind. I wonder how much it would be for someone like me with a gold magic spiral wheel to get a permit for occasional exploration.