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Not a bad start to a metal detecting career.

expat		Posted : Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:03:07 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 26/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 499 Location: Rangiora Thanks: 49 times Was thanked: 91 time(s) in 76 post(s)		http://www.dailymail.co....-hunt.html#ixzz2VQNaCjtK
		My greatest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my collection for what I told her it cost me.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:33:06 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Great stuff and the sort of thing we like to read about - He will be one happy chappy and good on him. It is good to read of the success of others. There just aint no real history here and some of the finds in England and on the Continent are just magnificent. A bit of a sod when you get that once in a lifetime in the first twenty minutes and reminds me of about 1981 when I took a chap gold fossicking and on his first trip out bent down and picked up from the bed of lower Deep Stream not too far from Hindon a 27 gram nugget! I had been Gold fossicking for 20 years up to then and had not got any that large and it was another 18 years before I bettered it though I did get one the same size shortly after. I enjoyed reading aobut the chap and his find and I hope he gets full value for his find and is maybe allowed to keep some of them should he wish to do so. Edited by user Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:34:12 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

latch		Posted : Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:49:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 192 Location: dunedin Thanks: 198 times Was thanked: 27 time(s) in 27 post(s)		thats truely awesome go the garrett lol
		fiend hard and find all

Foiled again		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 12:48:27 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 10/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 861 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 459 times Was thanked: 251 time(s) in 192 post(s)		Jebus that is amazing! Bet your amped now expat!!
		There's another to find and I'm gunna find it!

grubby		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 8:19:33 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 1/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 130 Location: west auckland Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 36 time(s) in 31 post(s)		Pretty awesome! What could possibly compare in NZ? A vegemite jar of pennies? HaHa. Has anyone 0n this forum found what they consider to be a hoard or cache?

number8wire		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 9:01:04 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 10/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,175 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 913 times Was thanked: 880 time(s) in 425 post(s)		Originally Posted by: grubby Pretty awesome! What could possibly compare in NZ? A vegemite jar of pennies? HaHa. Has anyone 0n this forum found what they consider to be a hoard or cache? Yep, a large jar of GOLD Sovereigns...........next weekend!
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 12:16:07 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: number8wire Originally Posted by: grubby Pretty awesome! What could possibly compare in NZ? A vegemite jar of pennies? HaHa. Has anyone 0n this forum found what they consider to be a hoard or cache? Yep, a large jar of GOLD Sovereigns...........next weekend! Yes and I do know where it is - I kid you not - there are four 'treasures' to be found - strangely enough three of them related to One hundred pound in Gold sovereigns - the same figure. The first one is somewhere at Greys Corner near Moven in the Waimate District, the second one is near Kurow up the Waitaki Valley and the third one is on Tabletop Station at the top of the Hakataramea Valley. The fourth one I have no doubt as to its existence is ten thousand pound in gold coins. Within the last two years I have been requested twice by people who know about it from the same source as I do to go and look for it on a fifty fifty basis. I think it highly probably to be New Zealands most valuable treasure and it is not common knowledge as it was kept quiet within the family of the person who hid it and who died in the early 1860s so all coins predate the date of his death.

Shilo		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 12:49:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 29/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 573 Location: Kawhia Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 285 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Agree, we will have large caches here in NZ. Not many trusted or were able to get to banks in the mid 1800's and property transactions were just about always done in gold sovereigns. If they couldn't bank their money then they would hide it - normally away from the house in case of fire. If the person dies suddenly then that cache is still there to this day. Also if moving countries or even areas their wealth would be converted into sovereigns because they are easy to carry. For example the 300 sovereigns I think it was James Teer lost from his money belt when the General Grant went down. It seems like a lot of the big finds overseas like the gold coins linked above and the Straffordshire Saxon hoard are found by beginner detectorists. I don't think this is just beginners luck - more that a beginner is more likely to dig all targets. A cache is likely to ring up as a large size or junk signal like an aluminium can. An experienced detectorist would most likely ignore such a signal and miss out!
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 1:20:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Shilo Agree, we will have large caches here in NZ. Not many trusted or were able to get to banks in the mid 1800's and property transactions were just about always done in gold sovereigns. If they couldn't bank their money then they would hide it - normally away from the house in case of fire. If the person dies suddenly then that cache is still there to this day. Also if moving countries or even areas their wealth would be converted into sovereigns because they are easy to carry. For example the 300 sovereigns I think it was James Teer lost from his money belt when the General Grant went down. It seems like a lot of the big finds overseas like the gold coins linked above and the Straffordshire Saxon hoard are found by beginner detectorists. I don't think this is just beginners luck - more that a beginner is more likely to dig all targets. A cache is likely to ring up as a large size or junk signal like an aluminium can. An experienced detectorist would most likely ignore such a signal and miss out! An interesting point about the beginning detectorist and I think you may have hit it on the head. I still dig many things which the detector indicates as rubbish - in my case more because I am curious! I look at all the advice guys give here about numbers and after metal detecting since 1981 I still dont give a stuff about numbers nor do I understand them and the interesting irony is that if I did take notice of number then I would only have half the gold I have got. I am no whizz kid like kiwijw with a metal detector - I am merely an amateur but the number to me means nothing really. In one case my detector made barely a murmur and nothing whatsoever showed up on the digital readout despite the slight variation in tone - merely because it was solid bedrock I decided to see what it was and smashing open the bedrock and in the smallest crack possible took out a dozen or so flakes of gold spread over an area of maybe 15cms and ranging from 2.5cms in the crack down to 10 or so cms and the latter ones were merely found because the detector reacted to the top ones. I could only assume that because they never registered on the read out that more people would have decided it was ground noise or something and passed them by.

Shilo		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 1:36:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 29/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 573 Location: Kawhia Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 285 time(s) in 185 post(s)		The best digital processor a metal detector could ever have is still the one between the ears of the user. Nothing has changed there since 1981 :) I often dig the signals that I can just hear but don't show a VDI number or register on the screen. Most of my beach gold rings come from these deep targets, but I have to admit that if the area is in a park & junky then I ignore these sounds. The 3 S rule (sound, size, shape) that was used with the old anologue and BFO machines still apply with the most modern machines but I think following this rule will mean ignoring a good cache!
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Metal Mikey		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 2:06:06 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 29/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 120 Location: Rangiora Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 22 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Talk about go for gold. Looks like he got to the woods before you expat! Im restarting my metal detecting career when you are back from holiday with the english horde. Cheers Mike.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 2:37:28 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Shilo The best digital processor a metal detector could ever have is still the one between the ears of the user. Nothing has changed there since 1981 :) I often dig the signals that I can just hear but don't show a VDI number or register on the screen. Most of my beach gold rings come from these deep targets, but I have to admit that if the area is in a park & junky then I ignore these sounds. The 3 S rule (sound, size, shape) that was used with the old anologue and BFO machines still apply with the most modern machines but I think following this rule will mean ignoring a good cache! I am probably saying this because I honestly know nothing about metal detectors of the modern variety - my big Minelab was a waste of time to me and yet my son has had many many ounces of gold with it - my Goldbug is heaps of fun and I have actually had a couple of ounces of gold with it BUT the KING of detectors still remains my big old time Garrett Deepseeker which I got in 1981 (Thanks mum and dad!) as I once had a one or two gallon clay crock near filled with coins from it plus quite a few gold and silver rings most of which I still have but gave away most of the pennies and half pennies and baubles and cashed in the silvers when they were 20 times face value. To me its tones are definitive although nowdays I have difficulty with pull tabs.

expat		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 6:08:20 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 26/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 499 Location: Rangiora Thanks: 49 times Was thanked: 91 time(s) in 76 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Metal Mikey Talk about go for gold. Looks like he got to the woods before you expat! Im restarting my metal detecting career when you are back from holiday with the english horde. Cheers Mike. Hopefully I'll be too rich to have need of associating with you by then Mike but who knows?
		My greatest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my collection for what I told her it cost me.

creamer		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 7:30:16 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 19/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,022 Location: Bay of Islands Thanks: 2289 times Was thanked: 525 time(s) in 391 post(s)		Yah for the garrett ace. .
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oroplata		Posted : Friday, 7 June 2013 9:49:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Originally Posted by: expat Originally Posted by: Metal Mikey Talk about go for gold. Looks like he got to the woods before you expat! Im restarting my metal detecting career when you are back from holiday with the english horde. Cheers Mike. Hopefully I'll be too rich to have need of associating with you by then Mike but who knows? Here's a large sum of money. Now, run away quickly.
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expat		Posted : Saturday, 8 June 2013 4:56:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 26/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 499 Location: Rangiora Thanks: 49 times Was thanked: 91 time(s) in 76 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Originally Posted by: number8wire Originally Posted by: grubby Pretty awesome! What could possibly compare in NZ? A vegemite jar of pennies? HaHa. Has anyone 0n this forum found what they consider to be a hoard or cache? Yep, a large jar of GOLD Sovereigns...........next weekend! Yes and I do know where it is - I kid you not - there are four 'treasures' to be found - strangely enough three of them related to One hundred pound in Gold sovereigns - the same figure. The first one is somewhere at Greys Corner near Moven in the Waimate District, the second one is near Kurow up the Waitaki Valley and the third one is on Tabletop Station at the top of the Hakataramea Valley. The fourth one I have no doubt as to its existence is ten thousand pound in gold coins. Within the last two years I have been requested twice by people who know about it from the same source as I do to go and look for it on a fifty fifty basis. I think it highly probably to be New Zealands most valuable treasure and it is not common knowledge as it was kept quiet within the family of the person who hid it and who died in the early 1860s so all coins predate the date of his death. Wow, they sound like they're worth putting the effort in for, especially the 4th hoard. Is the area you've narrowed them down to, a workable sized area, a few acres for example, or is it too extensive?
		My greatest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my collection for what I told her it cost me.

floatinggold		Posted : Monday, 10 June 2013 11:13:05 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 10/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 5 Location: tasman bay Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)		Two more treasures to add to Lammerlaws list: Check out Chapter 6 in Arawata Bill: The Story of Legendary Gold Prospector William James O'Leary http://books.google.co.n...nepage&q&f=false Is it worth looking for? who knows? :) Awsome forum folks, found it by chance last week. Filled with useful information and inspiration cheers to all of you for making the effort ! Edited by user Monday, 10 June 2013 2:13:45 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

Lammerlaw		Posted : Monday, 10 June 2013 1:35:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: expat Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Originally Posted by: number8wire Originally Posted by: grubby Pretty awesome! What could possibly compare in NZ? A vegemite jar of pennies? HaHa. Has anyone 0n this forum found what they consider to be a hoard or cache? Yep, a large jar of GOLD Sovereigns...........next weekend! Yes and I do know where it is - I kid you not - there are four 'treasures' to be found - strangely enough three of them related to One hundred pound in Gold sovereigns - the same figure. The first one is somewhere at Greys Corner near Moven in the Waimate District, the second one is near Kurow up the Waitaki Valley and the third one is on Tabletop Station at the top of the Hakataramea Valley. The fourth one I have no doubt as to its existence is ten thousand pound in gold coins. Within the last two years I have been requested twice by people who know about it from the same source as I do to go and look for it on a fifty fifty basis. I think it highly probably to be New Zealands most valuable treasure and it is not common knowledge as it was kept quiet within the family of the person who hid it and who died in the early 1860s so all coins predate the date of his death. Wow, they sound like they're worth putting the effort in for, especially the 4th hoard. Is the area you've narrowed them down to, a workable sized area, a few acres for example, or is it too extensive? The first three I have no idea exactly except in the case of Grays Corner and Hakataramea they were supposedly near Rabbiters camps I think. The fourth one I have a very good idea of its approximate whereabouts but merely cant be bothered at the moment. With a little more delving I can even possibly locate the position of the home of the person who had buried it so to within an acre or two yes. At this point in time I know of the person and the story of the treasure and the location where he lived and I also know of the existence of a map showing the settlement where he lived and this really only needs to be transcribed onto modern maps which is a little harder than one might think. Edited by user Monday, 10 June 2013 1:44:03 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified