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rgmcbrid  
Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 1:01:19 AM(UTC)
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Did a bit of trapping when I was a youngster in North America. When I was a kid in the 1970's bobcat was the only spotted cat fur that was still legal in the US so good hides were worth around $120-200. A good coyote or fox was worth about half that or less for comparison, and racoons skunks etc went for $8-15. Wasn't to long after that the nature nazis killed the fur industry and trapping all but disappeared. Most critters are quite a bit harder to trap than the dopey Australian possum. Standard operating procedure was to boil traps in a pot full of smelly woodsy materials and paraffin wax. When the traps were fished out with a wire they got a coating of wax and were then hung up on a tree somewhere. You tried never to touch them with a bare hand and only carried them in a trap bag that was also boiled and left in the tree to avoid getting any scent on them. Traps had to be set in the ground and covered in a perfectly natural looking way which was quite a trick and took a good deal of time. while doing so you had to kneel on a piece of canvas, again in an effort to leave as little sent as possible. The trap was generally baited with something smelly, usually some meaty substance that liquified after being kept in a jar far too long. Kind of depended on what you were after. Only took a drip or two near the trap to get critters to sniff around a bit. If you were after coyotes there was nothing better than coyote urine. My father kept one as a 'pet' for a while just to collect the urine. With some urine in a dish soap bottle you could squirt it on a post or a tree and any coyote that came by would feel compelled to leave his mark there too. Other things that were done differently were that often two traps were set. This doubled the chance of something getting caught, and with two feet caught it wasn't ever going to get away. Also trap drags were commonly used rather than stakes. They were like a little anchor on a length of chain. When an animal was caught it would run for cover and the drag would tangle up and hold it there. The idea being that the varmit was less likely to really fight the trap or chew its leg if it was under a bush somewhere. It was not to hard to follow the drag trail, and they did not go far but we usually had a hound along in any case. Also, a trapper had a variety of trap sizes to be used on various sized animals. Bear traps being the largest were illegal, but people still used them if they had a bear killing livestock. Proper etiquette dictated that whenever you set a bear trap you hung 2 large C-clamps in reach of it because if someone stepped in it they would not be able to weight both springs and they would be stuck there. With clamps you could screw the springs down and let yourself out.

Anyway, that is enough blabbing on; I did a bit of trapping around the house this last winter and got a couple of kilos of possum fur. Not that many around, usually only catch 2-3 a day, but it is still good fun. These last two days of snow got me thinking that the little fellas might be pretty well fured up again and I was thinking I should boil up the traps (old habits die hard) and set a string up through the bush above the house and see whats out there.

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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:43:21 PM(UTC)
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nice red fur in southland ay?
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 5:33:03 PM(UTC)
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The possums down here seem bigger than the ones I trapped up north when I was living near Ruapehu. I weighed the fur I plucked from one big fat fellow at 120 grams. Thats only 8.3 possums to the kilo, although I think it normally takes more like 12. I will attach a picture of a well fed specimen I caught last winter that was missing most of its tail; probably could have sold it to a near sighted american as a ground hog.
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 6:14:25 PM(UTC)
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i cant figure out how to put pics on this forum of my crapy computer but here is a link to a pic of one i shot last year its about the average size for the property i was shooting em on! https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-...62630611_609661314_n.jpg the air rifle i was using at the time was a crosman phantom 1000+ with a 3-9by40 AOE scope!
should show the pic if you copy and past into search!
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 7:05:35 PM(UTC)
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I do opposuming its my job full time

must be bloody big possums if you are only getting 10 to 12 to a kilo

I got $16.50 per pelt (average) last winter and I skin every thing including the kittens getting $25.50 for my top grade skins

I find using leg hold traps that if you get a good size possum smack it on the head to stun it then pull all the fur of it then let it go it grows more so as you can do it all over again bets killing them
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 7:43:04 PM(UTC)
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will the furr grow back for the following year or sooner?
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 7:51:24 PM(UTC)
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must be bloody big possums if you are only getting 10 to 12 to a kilo


Well, not to exaggerate it takes about 12 BIG possums to make a kilo. On average I would estimate it is more like 14.
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 8:36:28 PM(UTC)
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hi andy

not to sure weather it even grows back. the comment was more to wind up any animal lovers lol

yes I would agree that 14 BIG skins in the winter from down your way would be a kilo as long as you take the eye brows as well
im getting $135 per kilo
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 8:59:30 PM(UTC)
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aahhh got ya!now i feel a bit aussy lol!
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 9:29:03 PM(UTC)
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I was getting 14 in a few good patches south of Harihari north of Haast. Best line on poison was 220 coons 9line out 3 nice nights and picked it up in 2 days. south of Haast. smallerr ones and such high population they were all pluckers unfortunately. However did get 10 $ green for them that was in 2009. I love em . Id be doin it now but wives not to keeen on you being away long periods. Haha
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 9:40:36 PM(UTC)
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hi andy
I lived in mamaku in the 70s did the oppossums on the main road north had a great time

im trying out a new method of skinning at the present if the coon is in the trap you sneck up on it give it such a fright it jumps out of its skin so far it hasn't worked

I prefer to cyanide them its a good clean kill although we do use a number of methods eg leg holds, kill traps, 1080 ground lay, and about another 4 different poisons

just another day in the office walking round the hills keeping fit and not having to breath all your smog you city boys produce
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Posted : Wednesday, 29 May 2013 9:58:49 PM(UTC)
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hahaha that would make it easyer hahaha good 1!iv been reading possum hunting in new zealand a practical guide to hunting methods preparation and sale of skins by Graeme marshall!its an oldy (1983) but quiet informative!i enjoy shooting possums with an air rifle on smaller propertys just as a bit of a hobby when i can get a permision but when my wifes parents move over this way and iv got a free baby sitter i was thinking of doing some stints in the bush somewhere to see if i can make some decent money out of it!
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Posted : Saturday, 27 July 2013 5:59:47 PM(UTC)
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hey kiwikeith im thinking about buying some gear to get myself setup for some possuming as an income during winter next year!do you have any advice on what gear i should get and roughly how much it will cost to get myself and 1 other fella set up!we will be looking at doing 2 week stints in the bush at a time then a week off sort of program!would i be better of skinning or plucking or both?any advice would be appreciated!cheers.
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Posted : Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:43:23 AM(UTC)
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hi andy
its a hard one depends on how you are going to do an area and where

if on doc land I would be leg hold traps some where between 100 to 150 traps, doc give out leg hold trap permits pretty happily. traps need to be cheeked every day by law

I would suggest you get your cyanide licence in case you have private land to use

get some flour , icing sugar, mix as a lure 75%flour I have started to use horse food missed in with it

don't expect to get rich but you will make a wage ive just sold some skins dried and averaged over $12 per skin but I skin anything with fur on it
advice is be careful where you go its like golding DONT POACH possum hunters are even more ruthless then gold hunters

best of luck keith
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Posted : Sunday, 28 July 2013 1:19:29 PM(UTC)
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thanks mate!i appreciate your advice!
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