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maybe?

http://www.nzpam.govt.nz...5179&exitMode=close#

if we cant just go there and do some fosicking then i will be livid :(

know some guys that hev been panning there since they were teenagers

and is it normal for them to get such a huge area? 55 odd hectares?

Lol did it really say jew pricks out haha thats funny

Best to just give it up and look else where like someone else pointed out if you went to the expence of setting a claim up would you risk letting others on that may break the rules .

he sounds like a right charming gentleman. seems he's quite happy to stop anyone going there and extremely happy he has stopped the camp owner. a prize plonker.

Well thats some stuff I didnt know. Thanks gogold.

well said modify. to satisfy my curiosity just how many of the whingers who are accusing us of whinging have their own claim.

If there's river gravel under the camp ground maybe the owner could dig a pit for people to chip away at?
Just an idea Iv never been there so don't no .

Wow there is such a wide range of views on this topic .
I said earlyer on , a farmer i no down there knows him in a round about kind of way and i found him,on face book and msged him and sent a email as my daughter knows how these face book things work.
He replyed ,and i said who i was and how and why id like to chat , so he said to called him and he would explane ,so i did and said who i was ect , and he wasnt rude but had said for the last 6 weeks he had , had people emailing alsort of things to him.

From polite questions on getting to pan there, and straight out abuse just because he had got a permit or applied for one .
All because he wanted to be all leagel and that now people were saying F....you we will just sneek on u rich ..... ...... ........!
Or things like i will smack u in the head u c...t faced .....with my shovel and the list goes on he is well over people that expect to be able to take somthing that dosent belong to them and make $ for nothing.
And keeping in mind if he wanted to he could show the police and let them sort out these kind of people ruining it for everyone.

On his advice ive looked on the NZPAM site and hes telling the truth n he had sound reasons for saying he wanted to close it up , as hobby miners have been sand baging the river for there sluices to get good flow and leaving rubbish n beer cans food wrapers about in our rivers even human waste on the bank diging under the bridges dredging out of the sides of banks, pulling up roots along the rivers edge.
Now hes liable for this if ecan inspect the river and a govt mine inspector and , as such all health n saftey issues or osh if u get hurt .
Now i wasnt happy when i 1st saw this on there it made me join to give my view on the claim, but no wonder he made smart coments and said your all wanting somthing for nothing .( hence the jew statement, im guessing ). Or being tight , going dutch, ect.
Im sure white power is not now going dredging.
So thanks to you guys out there maybe on this blog for being rude n leaving waste behind and not respecting our country and the person , who may well of let people pan if he had not been abused just for playing by the rules , yes the ones we ..., including myself have been breaking .
Mostly because we havent even read them .
Im still pissed off i have to travel futher now , but il find a spot ask NZPAM if its ok to be there n il do what we do .

Its no good acting the fool and ruining it for others , ya never no we mite be all happy if some folks hadnt acted like that .


My call lasted a good hour plus n if he was such an arse i don't think he would waste his time giving me tips on gear and places to go and what depth its likely to be n diffrent rock types how the law works ect.

So i dont blame him he was kind to me and makes me belive some folks on this blog need to respect people and they will help you, if not well this happens .


Now i best go to work and think about gold .

Edited by user Tuesday, 13 August 2013 5:05:16 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

it's good to see the last few posts adding some context from the other side of all this.
ignorance of the rules won't save anyone anymore. if you want to have a place to pan or whatever you need a claim of some sort. simple as that.
even the campground digging a hole to pan in - that technically would need a permit also.
in reality the folk that run nasebytown should have been more on the ball if they felt a permit holder might one day exclude the town from panning.
who knows, one days the claimholder may make some of the site a public area. that can and has been done elsewhere i understand. if all you guys have been so busy panning away over the years there shouldn't be much gold left by town? be nice to the guy and see what happens.
amazing how quickly everyone makes assumptions regarding people without meeting them or finding out a bit about them.

in conclusion perhaps this forum should get a section focussing on how the permit system works, and all the ins and outs of the law and it's many arms of money collection. i wonder how many people here would actually get a claim then or still wouldn't.

i feel for those that are naive to the law. yes, the law often stinks. sometimes you just have to take it. i've met quite a lot of dredgers over the years. they have worked hard and spent big money to get their claims. true, there are some aholes out there that tie up land without ever intending on dredging it. or put a permit over all of bloody otago.

if it's simply a place to pan and sluice that is needed why not research a way to make it happen. get the local community groups behind you. do some fundraising even.

or you could be nice to a permit holder and they might let you onboard. the thing is with the permits - if a amateur makes a mess of the river bank or such it is the permit holder that cops it. this is why not many are keen to allow newbies on claims.

G-old, good to hear the other side of the story I can only imagine the amount of abuse the poor fella has copped over the last month or 2.
Most claim owners are good buggers theyre just like you guys but saved some hard earned $ and taken their hobby and love of gold further, it can cost a lot of money to set up some areas the bills can get to 10k easily before theyre legal, not to mention the many hours of phone calls and paperwork involved so you cant blame them for wanting to lock out the other fossickers that can put all that at risk

simon a forum section on claims and the processes involved would be a good idea, not just as a help/guide but to help the guys that don't have a clue and have a whinge about claims realise what those guys have had to do and the time and money it has taken to accomplish.

To add to my last post about fools on this site and ones jumped out allready Streeter i to have looked and saw that post from face book u have put on here and i can see ur not friends with him at all on face book ??,
and it ends ... Why because ur only able to see a small part of his post as thats how face book works so . Dont take every thing as true as i have rung him again about 30 minutes ago and he explane one of the many people harrassing him on fb was calling him hitler and it was a response
It folllowed on to say .....its gota suck to be the owners of the camping ground.........having all u people that want somthing for free turning up there and wanting it all for free no doubt as well.
His post goes on to say im so sick of people naging me for free gold n if you say no you have people ,call me hittler or starlin or a wanker n such.

Its his page n him expressing anger at people like you stiring up trouble by doing this hence why ur not his freind on Face Book an have helped stop a bit of paning for good folks streeter i think your a .......,.........

And i feel for Mr Franklyn as hes doing nothing wrong at all