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ttdamez  
Posted : Monday, 8 April 2013 9:03:44 PM(UTC)
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so we went over to the coast on sunday found the best spot ive been to yet, lots of colour screened my stones down to 4mm then ran through keene sluice box getting colour nearly every scoop now ive been panning out my black sand doesnt seem to b much gold in it ?i am wondering can water flow be too fast? or too much [or not enough angle??]

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Peoplesman  
Posted : Monday, 8 April 2013 10:08:01 PM(UTC)
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Hey
I am no expert on sluice boxes and mine is home made and different to yours but yes angle does matter
Too shallow of angle and beaches" form and clog up behind your riffles in your sluice stopping gold getting trapped in the miners moss.
Too steep of an angle and the gold washes right out of the sluice box
As for water flow if there is way to much then i am guessing gold would get washed out. But it does sink very fast. Look at how fast the water flow is in dredging sluice boxes its very fast and they still catch the gold...
So i think the most important aspect is getting that magic angle.
Basically i set mine up so i have approx a 10-15 cm drop from one end to the other (at a guess) and i put some material through it, now what i am looking for is are the beaches* that the material forms behind the riffles clearing at a good time frame e.g only takes a matter of several seconds to clear the majority of the material from behind the sluice (you can see if slowly throwing out the lighter material). If they don't clear at all then your angle is too shallow and if they don't even form then your angle is too steep.
I try and have a good amount of water flowing through my sluice i have had around 5-10 cm and upon panning the tailing's at the bottom of the sluice to check for lost gold i have not discovered any so the sluice was doing its job.
This reminds me if your worried about the angle and still cant figure it out then after sluicing for 5-10 minutes pan some of the tailing's taken from just below the end of your sluice box. Even better half bury your pan and have the end of the sluice resting on it (so the material going through the sluice also passes through the submerged pan trapping any escaped heavy's). Now pan this material and if you find gold then you know your sluice is not working efficiently.
Hope this helps
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Posted : Monday, 8 April 2013 11:08:50 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
I have to agree with peoplesman mostly, there are so many variables; water flow, classifying size, sluice box type, etc..
The old timers said drop your sluice box an inch for every foot of sluice box length, it worked for them so it should be a good starting point for you.
Also try and keep the end of your sluice box out of the water flow, otherwise the water current will wash around the end of your sluice box and interfere with the water flow in your sluice box, it also means that your tailings will get washed downstream rather than building up and backing up your sluice.
If you are catching the black sand then you should be catching gold too, unless your sluice is full of black sand and not clearing in which case chances are you aren't. Good luck.
ttdamez  
Posted : Tuesday, 9 April 2013 12:19:36 AM(UTC)
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thanks guys thats really helpfull i did try panning the tailings and nothing in there plenty of black sand in box nearly nothing in tailings i ran my magnet through it as well i do have a photo of sluice in water but i keep getting an error message when i try to load it i will persevere with both trial and error i spose i havent quite got to the bottom of my ''pay dirt'' yet
so hopefully it all at the bottom lol just seems what im panning out is a lot smaller than what i saw going in cheers for info
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Posted : Tuesday, 9 April 2013 5:22:53 PM(UTC)
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My home made box is a metre long & I work on no more than 50mm of water going through.

Due to using my rail system to classify as I put the shovel loads onto my box & not using riffles as such (I use a rubber mat with a raised diamond pattern), I place my pan at the bottom for the first 4 or 5 shovel loads as a backup. I've never had any gold make it into the pan, or the bottom mat for that matter.

As for angle, I do what was mentioned above ... as in run some material through & see what happens & adjust as required.

Link to the thread about my rail system & box ... http://www.paydirt.co.nz/forums...e-box-material-idea.aspx

EDIT ... some shocking spelling mistakes :)

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Cleggie  
Posted : Tuesday, 9 April 2013 5:40:23 PM(UTC)
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Most of the gold is caught in the first 150mm/6" of your sluice box, quite offen when I check my riffle matting there is no gold at all. I catch plenty of black sand and catch the odd flake in my riffle mat. I have a ribbed spotter mat at the top of my sluice box and I find that most of the gold is trapped in my spotter mat.

If you tested your tailings and found no gold then I would say you have done well
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Posted : Tuesday, 9 April 2013 7:10:30 PM(UTC)
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Shallow + Fast = Losing gold
Deep + Fast = Good

Get that water as deep as you can without it spilling out of the sluice box
Cheers

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Posted : Tuesday, 9 April 2013 8:48:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ttdamez Go to Quoted Post
so we went over to the coast on sunday found the best spot ive been to yet, lots of colour screened my stones down to 4mm then ran through keene sluice box getting colour nearly every scoop now ive been panning out my black sand doesnt seem to b much gold in it ?i am wondering can water flow be too fast? or too much [or not enough angle??]


I have my box usually set at a pitch of 10-15 deg, and depending of the flow, have it raised above the original bed with flat rocks, spending as much time as needed to get it just right, deepening the tail race and making wing dams with a good inch of smooth linear flowing water flowing through. Sometimes there is a good volume of water but it is sluggish and will not move the rocks, but try different ways and you will soon get the feel of when it is right. I have only a small strip of black ribbed matting at the head of the box to indicate colour, the gold will move off this after a while. Then I have green astro-turf/fake grass, the bottom third with home made riffles made from scrap....very important to have something at the end to catch anything that rolls that far and I have been surprised. Most of the yellow should be in the top third of carpet. Keep it up and happy hunting :)
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ttdamez  
Posted : Tuesday, 9 April 2013 11:16:20 PM(UTC)
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thanks guys i am taking it all in and hopefully i can get another trip over the coast in the next month and have another go
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Posted : Wednesday, 10 April 2013 7:41:16 PM(UTC)
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ttdamez  
Posted : Wednesday, 10 April 2013 7:48:11 PM(UTC)
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i have a metal detector havnt had much luck with it but i do still use it
chrischch  
Posted : Sunday, 14 April 2013 9:03:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jimmydetectors09 Go to Quoted Post
hello, friend, are you interested in hunting. Gold is valuable and everyone is eager for it. But the question is that not everyone can detect it.
However, with a gold metal detector, you can do hunting more easily. Big fortune is ahead. What are you waiting for?



You sound like a good honest chap...
So where do I send my money? Nigeria?

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ttdamez  
Posted : Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:04:25 PM(UTC)
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lol thought that was a bit strange tryn to sell me a detector
ttdamez  
Posted : Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:13:55 PM(UTC)
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to continue where i started i have finished panning out my fine material and alas i am sure i did lose some gold with the amount of large flakes i saw going into my sluice box and nearly no large flakes in my fines what i was left with is less than a gram in weight bugga i will do some more research and prob some more asking on here