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Posted : Sunday, 24 March 2013 10:41:42 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

Not sure if anybodys covered this yet but theres a petition online to sign about getting the miners right back in business, a facebook group is covering it (also great pics and info on gold) -

http://www.facebook.com/...-Porangi/131382030316518

if your not on facebook petition is here -

http://www.activism.com/...f-the-miners-right/34101

I dont know how effective the petition will be but its got to be worth a second of your time to sign it?

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Posted : Monday, 25 March 2013 8:10:05 AM(UTC)
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Shame they didn't use the http://www.change.org/petition site - a little less ad cluttered so more likely to be taken seriously in my opinion. I'd already come across that one with "We request that, the New Zealand Government, re-instate the option of ten-year validity on New Zealand passports". Signing anyway. Not clear what will happen after all the signatures have been collected though for the miners rights one.
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Posted : Monday, 25 March 2013 9:26:04 AM(UTC)
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yep the governments sure gonna listen to something on facebook ay.
it would be good if they did bring it back but sadly theres no way it ever will theres no $$$ in it for our money hungry government and $$$ is the only thing they care about so until that changes youre s**t outve luck.
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Posted : Monday, 25 March 2013 4:51:23 PM(UTC)
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Yes it would be an extremely good thing to re introduce it but to see it introduced needs a concerted effort by a large number of people - rights in many respects are being eroded and this is just one respect.
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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 6:14:02 AM(UTC)
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The agenda is to restrict the citizens involvement and movements on land based enterprises.Miners rights for ordinary citizens are not included in agenda 21.
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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 4:50:43 PM(UTC)
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The agenda is to restrict the citizens involvement and movements on land based enterprises.Miners rights for ordinary citizens are not included in agenda 21.


Agenda 21 dates from the UN's 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro. Its claimed aim was to lay down global principles for sustainable development into the 21st century. It was supposed to be about getting local governments and agencies acting on the environment. Worldwide, hundreds of local authorities have signed up to its principles. So American environmentalists were surprised when it became an official enemy of the Republicans back in August. Opponents of Agenda 21 had been around for years, but pushed what looked like outlandish conspiracy theories and were limited to what Democrats had believed were the "tinfoil hat" wing of the Republicans.

The central suspicion of those most keenly opposed is that Agenda 21 is the UN's plan to take away our cars, money, assets and freedom of choice and crowd us all into vertical urban housing estates that will be virtual prisons. The even more fearful believe the UN will then start some sort of radical process of depopulation to get our numbers down to about (an environmentally sustainable) half a billion. The rich and senior bureaucrats will be exempt from the process. Quote Waikato times DEC2012 http://www.stuff.co.nz/w...084651/Sustaining-belief , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21 also http://www.unep.org/Docu...efault.asp?documentid=52

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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 5:04:39 PM(UTC)
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Broken Promise: DOC Grants Access to Schedule 4 Land
Thursday, 28 March 2013, 11:56 am
Press Release: Coromandel Watchdog


Broken Promise: DOC Grants Access to Schedule 4 Land for Mineral Exploration

Coromandel Watchdog of Hauraki is shocked that the Ministry of Conservation has granted access for prospecting on Schedule 4 land to mining companies in the Coromandel and in the Paparoa National Park.

Over 40,000 New Zealander’s marched and made submissions in 2010 to protect our most precious conservation land from mining. But permits have been granted by NZ Petroleum and Minerals over land that includes Schedule 4 conservation land and more recently access for exploration has been granted by the Department of Conservation.

“Newmont aren’t just doing this for fun, they want information that would lead to a viable mine and access to this information gives them the ability to compromise the ecological values of this conservation land,” Coromandel Watchdog Coordinator Renee Annan said. “This is not what we marched for in 2010 and it is not what was promised by this government to the people of New Zealand or the communities of Hauraki/Coromandel.”

“What is the point of allowing prospecting and exploration when it has been made very clear that mining and industrialising these areas is unacceptable,” Ms Annan said. “Letting a multinational corporation with a controversial reputation internationally and in New Zealand into the areas of utmost protection is another example if this governments on-going facilitation of the mineral industry over and above the wellbeing of communities and the environment.”

Access has been granted to prospect in the Kauaeranga Valley near Thames and in the Puketui Valley near the Kopu-Hikuai Road on Schedule 4 land.

“These are part of our treasured conservation estate that many people who live here and others who visit have a close affinity with. Access should not be given for any stage of mining activity including prospecting and exploration,” said Ms Annan.

“This is a major breach of trust between the government and our communities. The Coromandel is too precious to mine.”

ENDS
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Parliamentary research of mineral permits on Schedule 4 land: https://www.greens.org.n...ining_permit_overlap.pdf

DOC access arrangements for mineral prospecting and exploration on Schedule 4 land:http://www.greens.org.nz/sites/default/files/oia_of_access_arrangements.pdf

© Scoop Mediahttp://www.scoop.co.nz/s...s-to-schedule-4-land.htm

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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 5:58:27 PM(UTC)
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My family spent time in Kauaeranga Valley last Christmas. Great place. Couple nights in Wainora camp. Cheap camping and great swim holes!

why would the Nats ( not known as the most truthful people) grant mining exploration consents to land they say can't be mined?
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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 6:18:43 PM(UTC)
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Because their global corporate masters told them to do so.

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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 8:10:47 PM(UTC)
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If the north island had any mineral worth mining then why has nobody ever found a sustainable source before? What's the point in opening mines for zero return?
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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 8:38:01 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LepreSean Go to Quoted Post
Broken Promise: DOC Grants Access to Schedule 4 Land
Thursday, 28 March 2013, 11:56 am
Press Release: Coromandel Watchdog


Broken Promise: DOC Grants Access to Schedule 4 Land for Mineral Exploration

Coromandel Watchdog of Hauraki is shocked that the Ministry of Conservation has granted access for prospecting on Schedule 4 land to mining companies in the Coromandel and in the Paparoa National Park.

Over 40,000 New Zealander’s marched and made submissions in 2010 to protect our most precious conservation land from mining. But permits have been granted by NZ Petroleum and Minerals over land that includes Schedule 4 conservation land and more recently access for exploration has been granted by the Department of Conservation.

“Newmont aren’t just doing this for fun, they want information that would lead to a viable mine and access to this information gives them the ability to compromise the ecological values of this conservation land,” Coromandel Watchdog Coordinator Renee Annan said. “This is not what we marched for in 2010 and it is not what was promised by this government to the people of New Zealand or the communities of Hauraki/Coromandel.”

“What is the point of allowing prospecting and exploration when it has been made very clear that mining and industrialising these areas is unacceptable,” Ms Annan said. “Letting a multinational corporation with a controversial reputation internationally and in New Zealand into the areas of utmost protection is another example if this governments on-going facilitation of the mineral industry over and above the wellbeing of communities and the environment.”

Access has been granted to prospect in the Kauaeranga Valley near Thames and in the Puketui Valley near the Kopu-Hikuai Road on Schedule 4 land.

“These are part of our treasured conservation estate that many people who live here and others who visit have a close affinity with. Access should not be given for any stage of mining activity including prospecting and exploration,” said Ms Annan.

“This is a major breach of trust between the government and our communities. The Coromandel is too precious to mine.”

ENDS
Reference:
Parliamentary research of mineral permits on Schedule 4 land: https://www.greens.org.n...ining_permit_overlap.pdf

DOC access arrangements for mineral prospecting and exploration on Schedule 4 land:http://www.greens.org.nz/sites/default/files/oia_of_access_arrangements.pdf

© Scoop Mediahttp://www.scoop.co.nz/s...s-to-schedule-4-land.htm


Good on them bout time they stoped listening to these tree hugging twats...wait till they get the go ahead to mine the Denniston Plateau be some crying then:)
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Posted : Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:10:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gingerbreadman Go to Quoted Post

Good on them bout time they stoped listening to these tree hugging twats...


Hmmm I am a resident (twat) of Thames in the Coromandel and I can't remember when I hugged a tree last.

With modern mining techniques it might be possible to mine the gold and other minerals and not destroy this beautiful area, nature does repair itself over time. Previous mining is in fact a draw-card for tourists here which adds greatly to our economy, so I 'could' be in favour of it.... IF... it was mined by a responsible NZ company, employing NZers and the profits stayed here.. But sadly NZ would get a pittance of the value Newmont would take out.

I ask you... Who benefits here? and don't say it will create jobs... or pay down debt or other such bullshit.

Mike
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Posted : Wednesday, 3 April 2013 4:12:20 PM(UTC)
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This Theory has been around since 2009................... The Dominion Post newspaper recently announced there is Trillions of dollars of untapped minerals, oil and gas around NZ shores…..is it just a coincidence that we have recently rewritten the Foreshore & Seabed Legislation, ‘elected’ a Goldman Sachs/ Merrill Lynch banker (the bankers for BP & Shell Oil) to run/ruin the Country, sold off Kiwirail and half our TV, Radio & Newspaper assets to the same banks as well as suffered massive/record floods and earthquakes specifically around the regions where most of these resources lie – and all in just a few short years?

Or are we indeed under attack by these neo Nazi foreign oil companies and their criminal bankers (including our Prime Minister) over what could be as much as $4 Trillion dollars worth of oil, gas, phosphate and other valuable resources?

Any Mainstream Media Whore or Politician NOT discussing these issues is either corrupt &/or negligent and should be punished…..it also couldn’t be more obvious that Labour are deliberately laying low and appearing weak to prop up National – they are ALL in on it.
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This same Global Banking Cartel and their oil companies have recently been carrying out massive genocide across the Middle East to capture their oil and gas resources, so what makes Kiwis think they wouldn’t also have a crack at us? Indeed there is now a growing amount of evidence and suspicion that they have already murdered 185 people in Christchurch and wiped out over 10,000 homes.
The Reality is that huge oil and gas resources were discovered in New Zealand back in the 1960′s during the Muldoon Government & a lot more has been found and hushed up since. The technology for finding & extracting deeper reserves of oil and gas has improved a lot since then and the militant, genocidal oil companies and their bankers have realized deep sea oil drilling in NZ would now be somewhat easier – and it would certainly be easier & cheaper to buy off NZ Government and media then depopulate New Zealand’s East Coast, than it is to invade a Middle Eastern Country and kill off half their populations- illegal and expensive wars these modern day Nazis are now losing.

Corrupt leaders and politicians in New Zealand have been taking payoffs from these criminals ever since. In fact, very few of our so called ‘leaders’ have not been in on it- view the full 40 year history of the corrupt politicians helping these criminals set up/ plan this invasion Click Full Article Below

Any corrupt, sleazy Politician or Media Whore who is NOT discussing these facts – but chooses instead to confuse and divide NZ’ers with manufactured stories on problems created by the same Nazi banks, alcohol and pharmaceutical companies -is in on it and should be strung up by their balls and hung out to dry for future generations of Kiwis to both laugh at and study the corruption that used to rule our Country. There is enough money in these resources to eradicate poverty if we chose to, build the best hospitals/ health system in the World, not to mention education & even pensions – as long as Kiwis get informed and demand these resources are used to our advantage & the good of the Country- and not just for the salaries of treasonous media whores and back handers/secret trust payments to treasonous, corrupt politicians- as is currently going on. Perhaps even more importantly – only Kiwis will look after their environment for future generations- these criminal banks and oil companies will decimate it and not care – same as they have done in almost every Country they have invaded and attacked for the same reasons.

Anyone already in on this scam- which has already killed 185 people in ChCh, and many more through sickness, suicide and displacement- must be prosecuted and hung in public (after a specific law change to deal with this treason) – including John Key, Gerry Brownlee, Bill English and their oil/gas/ bank sponsors based in NZ. If they try to escape, they must be hunted down and punished appropriately.

Here are the facts:

(To check any of these facts- Google the names involved- you will find these verifiable facts on the public record. They are from Company websites and official news sources. Simply Google the names involved and you can choose your own source – if you wish to view our sources- Click Below )

Goldman Sachs are the bankers for both BP Oil and Royal Dutch Shell- the Global oil company Goliaths owned by the English & Dutch Royal Families – Goldman Sachs were largely responsible for the 2008 Financial Collapse which wiped out the US Middle Class, before being bailed out by US Congress to the tune of $10billion, and then paying out $12billion in bonuses the following year. Most of Goldman Sachs US housing market debt had been on-sold to European banks, causing the whole Euro Zone crisis still being played out. Goldman Sachs also mysteriously sold up to 44% of their stock in BP just days before the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster, but have since bought stock back at the lower prices. Goldman Sachs was this year described by their own Israeli CEO as “toxic” and one of the most corrupt institutions on the Planet (in his resignation letter published in the New York Times).

Goldman Sachs recently instructed Ironbridge Capital of Australia (whom they also have a controlling interest in) to purchase Media Works in NZ – the owners of TV3, Radio Live and around 15 other radio stations across NZ – giving Ironbridge, Goldman, BP and Shell Oil direct access to the formation and control of New Zealand public opinion.

Goldman Sachs are invested in Kiwirail with ex Goldman Sachs executives being placed in senior management.
Kiwirail recently announced they don’t think it will be ‘viable’ to rebuild the rail line into the Gisborne area – this would inevitably reduce Gisborne’s horticultural industry and further depopulate NZ’s East Coast.

Ironbridge Capital, now controlled by Goldman Sachs, have just announced they also wish to purchase Envirowaste in NZ which will give them control over the movements of toxic waste from BP, Shell & Todd Energy oil and gas drilling or fracking around the Country.
Goldman Sachs are involved in the finance for John Key’s asset sales program as well as his new corrupt Conference Centre (gambling, prostitution and drug centre) . They were also indirectly involved in the seizure of the Crafer Farms through closing off debt facilities.

Goldman Sachs worked to cover up the media coverage of the Guld of Mexico Oil Disaster and are already working here to silence our media on any drilling/ fracking/ oil and gas issues Click Below

Goldman Sachs are also the bankers to the Vatican- one of the richest corrupt corporations in the history of mankind (along with the Royal Families, oil companies and banks), explaining the Catholic Church’s decision to destroy the Christchurch Cathedral despite the fact it was fully salvageable so they could get one of biggest insurance payouts in NZ history – they are fully informed/ in on it also.Getting the picture? Goldman Sachs, the bankers for BP and Shell Oil (and their subsidiary Todd Energy here in NZ) now have control over at least 50% of NZ media, the domestic rail network and soon a company that will allow any of those oil companies to ship/ hide their own toxic waste – and last but not least, they own most of our Government.

Read full…

http://www.mediawhores.c...atest-news&Itemid=47

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Posted : Wednesday, 3 April 2013 4:24:33 PM(UTC)
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This is a very enlightening You tube video, some interesting info at 5:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRK3LAIYg78
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Posted : Wednesday, 3 April 2013 6:45:14 PM(UTC)
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So by now we can see there is bugger all chance of returning to the miners right.But their is the public panning areas for us all to play in.
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Posted : Wednesday, 3 April 2013 7:15:07 PM(UTC)
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Good on them bout time they stoped listening to these tree hugging twats...


Hmmm I am a resident (twat) of Thames in the Coromandel and I can't remember when I hugged a tree last.

With modern mining techniques it might be possible to mine the gold and other minerals and not destroy this beautiful area, nature does repair itself over time. Previous mining is in fact a draw-card for tourists here which adds greatly to our economy, so I 'could' be in favour of it.... IF... it was mined by a responsible NZ company, employing NZers and the profits stayed here.. But sadly NZ would get a pittance of the value Newmont would take out.

I ask you... Who benefits here? and don't say it will create jobs... or pay down debt or other such bullshit.

Mike


Who benefits here? ...well probably not you jockey...but someone will...maybe a bunch of shareholders !!
I think if anyone can do the job in a good manner/reahabilitate the land to an acceptable level and get the wealth out of the ground whatever mineral it may be then good on them.
chances are most of these ''twats'' that like to march down the street no nothing about modern mining ....be good to see someone local get in the Coromandel harbour and strike it rich.
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Posted : Wednesday, 3 April 2013 7:39:36 PM(UTC)
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that's good news! I didn't know that Fraser's Pit, Macraes was going to be rehabilitated. Here I was thinking it was going to end up like the Berkeley Pit, just a big hole in the ground filled with poison. I had no idea it was going to be rehabilitated. Its going to take them a while to backfill!

here's a look at the Berkeley Pit. Might visit one day and pay my $2 and marvel at the industry of man

http://www.losapos.com/openpitmines