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goldrush boy  
Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 1:38:21 AM(UTC)
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Has any-one got any analytical rather than anecdotal evidence on gold loss (if any) through dry scalping out large boulders prior to screening or other processing of 'wash'.?
Every-one goes on about gold sticking to boulders but what's the real evidence of it being very much ? Cost vs reward !!!!!!
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Lammerlaw  
Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 1:35:17 PM(UTC)
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Does gold stick to boulders or to the mud which adheres to the boulders - I have never seen gold stuck on boulders as in a magnet to a fridge but I have seen gold stuck tot he mud under a rock or boulders after it has been lifted or pried up from the bed of the stream - you simply wash the mud off into the riffle box before you throw the rock out.
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Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 1:51:46 PM(UTC)
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I agree with Lammerlaw, as above. Also though if rocks are too big to lift you can use a scraper to scrape off the mud into pan or whatever.
As for anecdotal evidence I used to get a gram or 2 regularly from a worked out gully where the old timers had thrown their large rocks. The gold and mud that they had left on the rocks was washing off and running down the V shaped gully under the stacked rocks. I simply reached up and under the rocks as far as I could at the lowest point, and scraped the dirt into a bucket. I seldom found more than a pan-full of wash dirt, but got some surprisingly good size bits, up to just under a gram. NUGGY
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Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 2:31:01 PM(UTC)
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First nugget I ever found with my detector was on top of a big boulder about the size of a car. It was wedged under a little flake. I assume the top of the boulder used to be the bottom, but as it traveled down stream it ended up that way. Point being there could be gold on the big rocks. How much? I would guess not all that much because for a given volume of material the big rocks will have a lot less surface area than the smaller material and will therefore have less mud/fine gold caked on them.
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Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 2:48:03 PM(UTC)
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Hmm bit of a head scratcher - above, not sure how the big rocks end up with less surface area than the smaller material...... Maybe as a percentage hmmm dunno

Another thing to consider, is that as the gold often travels with the larger rocks in moving water, and lies on, under, against gold more often, so therefore logically as they have more contact with gold they must be more likely to get gold stuck onto them.

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Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 3:01:35 PM(UTC)
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Heres a thought.

Assuming Nuggy is right and gold does travel with larger rocks (ie. similar weights of disproportionate volume) and I imagine that is quite feasible, then surely there would also be a large volumes of small crap wizzing along too that would likely settle around the gold and prevent the direct contact with the larger rocks.

I think we need a Physics graduate for this one. Leonard maybe.

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goldrush boy  
Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 7:51:37 PM(UTC)
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This is all interesting guys but all anecdotal not a consequence of a detailed study. Add this to the mix ...lol
How this came up was related to discussing increasing the value throughput of a 5 foot gold screen (trommel) for an operator.
They currently dig and truck (150 meters) ALL material to the plant ,dump it ,pick it up put in the screen( damage-down time),
pick up tailing, load truck and take back to the pit.
Our view : dig ,dump on dry vibrating scalper, undersize -500mm loaded to truck, now 20% richer plant feed plus less plant damage(stoppages).
Big rocks would vibrate some of the gold off them plus rock pile could be hosed off on virgin ground before going to back fill.

In conclusion I believe there may be some minimal material left on the boulders but the added value of the plant feed and the greater availability of the gold plant greatly outweighs the value of any loss. Any arguments ?
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Posted : Wednesday, 20 March 2013 8:02:36 PM(UTC)
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Quick way to test this theory; sort out a load of your bigger rocks with the digger while loading other loads of smaller material, clean out the top table, then put just the load of bigger stuff through. Clean up top table again, then decide on results which way to go. NUGGY