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Southridge  
Posted : Tuesday, 19 February 2013 7:40:48 PM(UTC)
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Hey there new to this forum and congrats on it heaps of really usefull stuff to read anyway I've been mining/ playing on a claim that a friend of mine had down south but moved up to otago about a year ago I have done a we bit of poking around but don't want to piss anyone off but have found a spot that I would like to get the rights to but crown minerals web site confuses the hell out of this simple builder can anyone give me the laymens terms of what I need to do and how ???? Or is there anyone with a claim around here that wouldn't mind me tagging along for a day still got heaps to learn and don't mind a bit of hard work

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Posted : Wednesday, 20 February 2013 8:12:42 AM(UTC)
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Hey Southridge

I can assist you with the forms etc, its not that hard really, just like a resource consent lol. Live in Queenstown
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Posted : Sunday, 3 March 2013 3:46:00 PM(UTC)
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what sort of dollars are you talking about to get a small claim. (if there is such a thing). would it be worth a group putting in $x each to get one.
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Posted : Tuesday, 5 March 2013 10:36:17 PM(UTC)
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Hi bacially the group thing would be the way to go, maybe someone in pay dirt, and in your area would like to start a group, or club,up and 10 or 20 people put money in. and fined a claim,, thats how I get in to a claim, hope that helps, maybe run some ideas in this forum, and see what happens
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Posted : Tuesday, 5 March 2013 11:05:32 PM(UTC)
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yeah. that was what i was hoping - see if theres any interest here. just have to wait a while and see i guess.
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 7:50:18 AM(UTC)
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group things a dumb idea, getting 10-20 people to stick to 1 set of rules and all pitch in with the same $$ and amount of work to get setup I dont think so. can do it in a small group say 3 or 4 but everyone has different abilities and 2 of them myt crack the sh*ts if the other 2 find good gold and they dont. splitting all the gold too would only work if everyone does equal amounts of work.
id stick to just 1 or 2 people.
if you have the $$$$ to go through the claim process just get an agent to do it theyll take care of everything for you, if you have plenty of $$$ some will even take care of consents and access arangements.
Southridge  
Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 6:42:53 PM(UTC)
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I think it's a nice idea but in reality gogold is right just to many variables and someone would get the pip or feel left out and leave then or something along those lines what would be great is if the government would reintroduce the miners right have read a few of the post on here about it unfortunatley i think im to late to make submission on it as new to this forum and didnt even know about possible changes unfortuently. does anybody have any idea were it is at or when we might here something ?? Am quite keen on a claim but might wait and see what happens about this any thoughts anyone ??
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 7:08:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gogold Go to Quoted Post
group things a dumb idea, getting 10-20 people to stick to 1 set of rules and all pitch in with the same $$ and amount of work to get setup I dont think so. can do it in a small group say 3 or 4 but everyone has different abilities and 2 of them myt crack the sh*ts if the other 2 find good gold and they dont. splitting all the gold too would only work if everyone does equal amounts of work.
id stick to just 1 or 2 people.
if you have the $$$$ to go through the claim process just get an agent to do it theyll take care of everything for you, if you have plenty of $$$ some will even take care of consents and access arangements.


so i take it you arent interested. i dont have the $ to get a claim. thats why i thought a group system might work. apparently not though. thats why i was asking for any interest. it was just a thought.
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 7:31:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Southridge Go to Quoted Post
I think it's a nice idea but in reality gogold is right just to many variables and someone would get the pip or feel left out and leave then or something along those lines what would be great is if the government would reintroduce the miners right have read a few of the post on here about it unfortunatley i think im to late to make submission on it as new to this forum and didnt even know about possible changes unfortuently. does anybody have any idea were it is at or when we might here something ?? Am quite keen on a claim but might wait and see what happens about this any thoughts anyone ??


the review of the crown minerals act virtually does nothing to help any small scale minners or fossickers, its pretty much only being done to cut a bit of red tape for the big multinationals so they can come in and rape our resources.

Southridge  
Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 7:40:43 PM(UTC)
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Well that's just grand isn't it is there a draft document out now ?? Or did u read that somewhere else's ??
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 7:51:26 PM(UTC)
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its somewhere on the ministry of econimic developments website, www.med.govt.nz just look for the cma review theres not much point looking at it tho theres only 2 or 3 sentences that relate to fossicking and hobby miners.
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 8:03:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nafcd Go to Quoted Post

so i take it you arent interested. i dont have the $ to get a claim. thats why i thought a group system might work. apparently not though. thats why i was asking for any interest. it was just a thought.


I'm not sure no one's interested. The problem is in previous discussions about this it was decided that the liability issues were a deal breaker.

Southridge  
Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 8:11:55 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for that how's this for an idea. does anybody know of A landowner that would like to recive a little gold or such like for acess Onto his property ? Could work if we find the right person and if there is a few people keen they might do all right by it too even if it was just for hand tools and sluice boxes like the public areas at least you might find a little more gold I know there ain't a lot in the ones I've been too Any thoughts ??
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 8:18:41 PM(UTC)
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For hobby miners/dredgers etc the whole system is shit rite through to the local councils doc etc etc its all set up for people with big bucks to throw around like plata has pointed out about liability well pretty much anything you can think of to include in a burocratatic shit document is in there lurking to be paid for !!
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 9:09:01 PM(UTC)
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would the landowners not also have liability issues if he let some of us on his land. i have a friend who is a rockhound and i know some farmers wont let them on their land for that reason. liability issues with a small claim would be with what regard- others in the group getting injured and who is responsible or would it be trespassers getting injured.
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Posted : Wednesday, 6 March 2013 9:18:27 PM(UTC)
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unless the farmer has raperian rights then most rivers and streams will be owned by doc or linz, they are the pricks you have to deal with for access and usually involves a few grand and a bit of time and not to mention a hefty bill for public liability insurance.