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Stolen Equipment

gogold		Posted : Tuesday, 19 February 2013 7:34:15 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: gore Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 56 time(s) in 45 post(s)		Originally Posted by: zimbo Originally Posted by: oroplata Originally Posted by: zimbo Dont have a claim, its was on private land Looking at http://www.paydirt.co.nz/permit-map it appears to me that the entire arrow river (and all the "private" land around it) is covered by prospecting permit # 54356 https://data.nzpam.govt....Report.aspx?permit=54356 So I wouldn't go complaining about the stolen gear to anyone unless the gear is worth more than the fine/jail time for prospecting on someone else's claim. Thanks for pointing this out, i had no idea i was on a prospecting claim until today, it was only put up on the claim map 2nd feb it looks like.. does anyone have a phone # for the owners on this claim as i would still like to go up there. And as for your comment on complaining, wouldn't you if all your gear was nicked, i paid for that gear with gold, sweat and blood. the claim is a massive prospecting 1, no doubt some large overseas outfit thats tied the area up, for once its not glass earth lol. you would be wasting your time contacting them they wont give a f**k with what you have to say. have to be a bit carefull leaving gear, it only takes one lowlife to ruin your day.

oroplata		Posted : Tuesday, 19 February 2013 9:17:21 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Originally Posted by: zimbo Originally Posted by: oroplata Originally Posted by: zimbo Dont have a claim, its was on private land Looking at http://www.paydirt.co.nz/permit-map it appears to me that the entire arrow river (and all the "private" land around it) is covered by prospecting permit # 54356 https://data.nzpam.govt....Report.aspx?permit=54356 So I wouldn't go complaining about the stolen gear to anyone unless the gear is worth more than the fine/jail time for prospecting on someone else's claim. Thanks for pointing this out, i had no idea i was on a prospecting claim until today, it was only put up on the claim map 2nd feb it looks like.. does anyone have a phone # for the owners on this claim as i would still like to go up there. And as for your comment on complaining, wouldn't you if all your gear was nicked, i paid for that gear with gold, sweat and blood. Ah, but I wouldn't be using my gear on someone else's claim :)
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oroplata		Posted : Tuesday, 19 February 2013 9:20:14 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Originally Posted by: simon i bet its some big bloody permit that covers half of otago, owned by a greedy 'investor?' if you have a permit you should be made to use it. and keep it to a reasonable size, rather than locking the place up. i've never seen any prospecting been done up there. that's my view anyway. I agree. I trust you put that view to the select committee? :) http://www.paydirt.co.nz...ought---TAKE-ACTION.aspx http://www.parliament.nz...stom=00DBHOH_BILL11798_1 Edited by user Tuesday, 19 February 2013 9:21:57 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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gogold		Posted : Tuesday, 19 February 2013 9:50:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: gore Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 56 time(s) in 45 post(s)		Originally Posted by: oroplata Ah, but I wouldn't be using my gear on someone else's claim :) mr dogooder im sure you wouldve swung a detector on a patch you shouldnt have, it dosent need to have an engine to poach. those big prospecting/exploration permits are a load of crap and i also wouldnt give a crap about going on them would be different however if it was an actual mining permit in a smaller area. did you look it up? its over 2500km2 in a year or so all but a tiny portion will be surrendered, they are large miners and not going to worry about a small trickle with a few flakes of gold.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:11:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		We, the people of New Zealand are gutless bloody wonders - me included - that we have naively allowed our rights to be eroded to the extent that Mr Big Business dictates terms and the criminals who make the decisions serve their masters accordingly. Virtually every decent fellow on this forum is a good old Kiwi - or honourary one at least - and they SHOULD have the right to go and have a play somewhere. It is time that the people of New Zealand banded together to force the government into serving the people and not the minority and bankers. To do this a concerted effort has to be made by all minority interest groups - hunters, trampers, gold fossickers etc to ensure that before any more is lost what has been lost is regained and no one big outfit can stop the small man having a prospect - A prospecting licence could be granted to a company BUT anyone should be able to work that land on a small scale in the meantime and when a mining licence is granted then it should be for a limited area and not square miles. The miners right should be reintroduced and guidelines for what you can or cannot do be put in place - eg 6 inch dredge max in the Arrow etc. My suggestion in the meantime is that every member of this forum look good at Zimbos gear and memorize what it looks like and if you see anything similar photograph it and put it into the forum or send it for his perusal. No trash or human turd has any right to take it nor touch the gear of any other person - something I have strong feelings about. I think that people were once far more honest and this might well be attested to by the fact that in the hills I have found two caches of old time miners gear left under rock shelters and still there all these years and a lifetime plus later and yet today put something down - turn your back and some maggot has swiped it.

oroplata		Posted : Wednesday, 20 February 2013 12:36:16 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Originally Posted by: gogold Originally Posted by: oroplata Ah, but I wouldn't be using my gear on someone else's claim :) mr dogooder im sure you wouldve swung a detector on a patch you shouldnt have, it dosent need to have an engine to poach. those big prospecting/exploration permits are a load of crap and i also wouldnt give a crap about going on them would be different however if it was an actual mining permit in a smaller area. did you look it up? its over 2500km2 in a year or so all but a tiny portion will be surrendered, they are large miners and not going to worry about a small trickle with a few flakes of gold. Here we go again. Another whine about these big claims, but did YOU make a submission to the select committee? I did! Whining on a forum won't change anything. Making a submission might have especially if you'd got off your arses and done so.
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mygold1		Posted : Sunday, 24 February 2013 8:36:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 9/12/2012(UTC) Posts: 2 Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)		Hey Zimbo, Any news on your stolen gear?????? cheers Greg

zimbo		Posted : Sunday, 24 February 2013 9:05:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 22/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 72 Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 29 time(s) in 18 post(s)		The police have been given some new information that there are following up on that's all i now at this stage. Edited by user Sunday, 24 February 2013 9:08:14 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

gogold		Posted : Sunday, 24 February 2013 9:16:09 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: gore Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 56 time(s) in 45 post(s)		Originally Posted by: oroplata Here we go again. Another whine about these big claims, but did YOU make a submission to the select committee? I did! Whining on a forum won't change anything. Making a submission might have especially if you'd got off your arses and done so. i did make a submission. also mucked around and had a whinge at local MP office a while back too about many issues with small scale/rec mining and fossicking competing and being treated like big multinationals. all they could do was give me a printout of the draft RMA review and point to the 1 sentence about hbby miners and another for fossicking areas. unfortunatley they dont give a fark and i dont think anyones submissions appart from compnays with big $$$ will matter.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Sunday, 24 February 2013 9:45:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: zimbo The police have been given some new information that there are following up on that's all i now at this stage. You will get it back - wait and see - the hardest is the waiting. Hopefully the slimeballs will get nailed in court and identified for all of us to know who they are.

Southridge		Posted : Sunday, 24 February 2013 10:10:28 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 19/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 23 Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 7 post(s)		Hope you get your gear back mate keeping an eye out

oroplata		Posted : Sunday, 24 February 2013 11:21:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered, Moderators Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,040 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)		Originally Posted by: gogold i did make a submission. Excellent. Quote: also mucked around and had a whinge at local MP office a while back too about many issues with small scale/rec mining and fossicking competing and being treated like big multinationals. all they could do was give me a printout of the draft RMA review and point to the 1 sentence about hbby miners and another for fossicking areas. unfortunatley they dont give a fark and i dont think anyones submissions appart from compnays with big $$$ will matter. Quite possibly. The next step is media attention. We need a hobby miner to stand outside the ministry of minerals and douse himself in petrol and light a match. That'll make them sit up and take notice. Any volunteers?
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gingerbreadman		Posted : Monday, 25 February 2013 11:25:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 473 Location: south of the black stump Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 96 time(s) in 74 post(s)		Pitty they locked the Blenheim beast back up he would have made a great Sacrifice....

zimbo		Posted : Thursday, 28 February 2013 6:54:43 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 22/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 72 Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 29 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Hello all still no updated to give, but im offering $500 reward for the return of my gear questions asked. PM me or contact queenstown police. thanks Zimbo

LepreSean		Posted : Friday, 1 March 2013 2:34:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 8/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 171 Location: Wherever I may roam Thanks: 187 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 78 post(s)		The area in question is under permit 54356 https://data.nzpam.govt.....aspx?commodity=minerals owners- Aspiring Resources, director: Duncan Hardie http://www.business.govt.../pages/companies/3775260 This company and many other permit holders in NZ are under the unregistered, Hardie Resources Ltd, http://www.hardieresources.com/new-zealand/ Keep an eye out for spotless white, no brand 4x4 utes, these belong to the drones doing the prospecting.
		auri sacra fames (accursed hunger for gold)

simon		Posted : Friday, 1 March 2013 3:36:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 7/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Central Otago Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 239 time(s) in 150 post(s)		nice work. i hate multi nationals that exploit our resources, inc the workforce. i see they are in png and oz too. i am also led to believe they have a well to do address here in queenstown. i have not seen any drones yet over this way. most of the country is too wild for much except dredging in the rivers and creeks. where have these drones been seen so far?
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Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 1 March 2013 3:38:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Sean - and others - as you know this country is not the colonial, pioneering country it once was - in two World Wars men went overseas to defend us against the threat of invasion and to ensure our freedom. But the invasion today is far more subtle and sinister and we hardly know it is happening especially the younger generations because this is what they are used to. Huge corporate enterprises - big business and money - they talk and dictate terms and the puppets of the International bankers, the very politicians that YOU voted in serve their masters well. In the last two weeks I have become even more aware of the evil afoot in this country when I went to renew my firearm licence - I realise that those who run this country do NOT want private citizens to own guns and are using the police to refuse the renewal of firearm licences on pretexts and pretexts only. I am waiting for my licence to expire and them not to renew it because I answered the questions honestly - we all suffer some form of anxiety at some stage in our life dont we - especially when our sons are sent to hospital in a rush in an ambulance, we all suffer depression dont we - when our nephew is killed and you hold his hand when the life support are turned off - this could cost me my firearm licence - this is the sort of country we live in. You guys who are older will see how are rights are being eroded - this is OUR country and it is about time that all ordinary Kiwis stick up for their rights - yes a claim is one thing and fair enough - we had three - we also never refused guys going to them to have a look for gold. Today greedy bastards take out huge claims and then block others but worse still rich sods take out huge prospecting licences and effectively block off huge tracts of land. When it comes to gold mining this is YOUR country and guys like Zimbo have a right to have a play. My next worry is the metal detectorists as I am sure that before long they will be hamstrung by legislation and deprivation of rights... remember that in the 1970s you could get a miners right to go anywhere on state land - remember that in the 1970s you could get a suction dredge and have a go anywhere you liked - not today. Edited by user Friday, 1 March 2013 3:39:58 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

kiwikeith		Posted : Friday, 1 March 2013 5:04:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 28/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 648 Location: hector Thanks: 359 times Was thanked: 230 time(s) in 154 post(s)		hi lammerlaw i agree 100% we all get down to it i do hope david is better pass on my regards i need my firearms licence for work but if i lost it i would have to take caz to work as she has hers as well what a great girl i have married able to go out and shoot tea as well as pan for gold

Lammerlaw		Posted : Friday, 1 March 2013 5:40:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: kiwikeith hi lammerlaw i agree 100% we all get down to it i do hope david is better pass on my regards i need my firearms licence for work but if i lost it i would have to take caz to work as she has hers as well what a great girl i have married able to go out and shoot tea as well as pan for gold Hi Keith - yes Caz is a heck of a nice lady but dont you dare tell her I said that as it might go to her head. David has just been taking school camps at Warrington since school began again for the year - hes had a bit of gold with the metal detector but not as much as previous years...girl friends seem to be very good distractions! Will tell David you are asking after him...hope to catch you again sooner rather than later - we will see how the finances go after I have finished building on.

overdog		Posted : Friday, 1 March 2013 6:49:01 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: nelson Thanks: 69 times Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)		Just a thought-in my line of work I have access to certain information based on a vehicle rego... Just saying... (",)

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