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starflash  
Posted : Thursday, 13 January 2011 11:04:27 AM(UTC)
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when i have moved boulders in the past i used a chain block and strops, since then i lost my block in a move of house, looking to get another however i have seen hand winches with a wire cable? on trade me.

http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-345753907.htm




have any of you out there had any experience with the wire hand winches.

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Karl McDowell  
Posted : Thursday, 13 January 2011 1:45:15 PM(UTC)
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Cable pullers like the one pictured are okay under favourable conditions but like all equipment - you get what you pay for. They're generally lighter to carry than a chain block or tirfor style winch but with lighter weight comes weaker construction.

I used to work in the building industry and we sometimes used winches of various types to move and erect components on site. I've actually seen a two ton cable puller buckle well short of its stated SWL. Better off to stick with a chain block or tirfor which can both be used safely in either direction under load, whereas it's fairly risky releasing or paying out cable under load on the type pictured.

If you're able to spend a little more you could probably do worse than look at the tirfor knock offs that Super Cheap Auto sell. A mate got one a couple of years back and gives it a hiding every winter winching his 4WD in the mud over on the West Coast and it's still going strong. From memory a 2000kg model sells for around $170.

My two cents worth.
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Posted : Thursday, 13 January 2011 1:50:50 PM(UTC)
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thanks karl, yeah the idea of a cable brake type system does seem cheap and unreliable, i think i will stick to the chain block.
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Posted : Sunday, 23 January 2011 2:22:56 AM(UTC)
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starflash wrote:
when i have moved boulders in the past i used a chain block and strops, since then i lost my block in a move of house, looking to get another however i have seen hand winches with a wire cable? on trade me.

http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-345753907.htm




have any of you out there had any experience with the wire hand winches.

cheers
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Yes, we've used several over the years, like Karl says, you get what you pay for. One of our best buys was a rock net ( made of cable) from Keenes, its worth its weight in gold and has halted our heart-stopping practice of cleaning out under big goulies form all sides, praying the beggars wouldnt fall over while we were underneath!
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Posted : Thursday, 26 May 2011 6:44:57 AM(UTC)
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The light hand winches you show in the heading come in two types I noted - some have just the one serated teeth disc on one side and some have two, one on either side. The second type is by far the strongest as you get equal strain on both sides - but neither can take my sort of load as a pile of buckled up written off relics in my shed testify.

In the end I gave up with them and reverted to chemical persuasion though nowdays I try to monster the rocks with crow bars and unwilling helpers in the form of son and friends!!

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