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Poaching - Potential for violent confrontations

Jd		Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 12:29:43 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 5/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 99 Location: Blenhim Thanks: 114 times Was thanked: 19 time(s) in 13 post(s)		Well that why have it managed so that would not happen but give the user pays a better chance of doing it the right way you pay you can play if you want somthing for nothing free fosic areas apply jd
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gingerbreadman		Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 1:16:19 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 473 Location: south of the black stump Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 96 time(s) in 74 post(s)		you pay you can play ...hmmm im sure iv heard that fraze before Jd but not at the river!....it would be impossible to manage unless you had someone there evryday watching and that could incompase k,s of riverbed if youv read this "poaching post" youl get the jist of what happens when there is $$ involved...if people have the gall to hop onto a liget claim and go to town imagine what it,d be like for a smallish fee and then help your self lol im sure a bunch of you guys are good bloke,s that play by some rules but in reality there are plenty that dont play the same game and the like,s of doc im sure would be getting highly aroused behind some bush or rock at the thought of busting some dredgers putting to much turbidity in the water or boring into banks,making hole,s to deep moving to much gravle in 1 day etc etc to keep there job a little longer and before you no it dredging will be banned...look up the 49ers in the state,s its exactly what they were doing....its a great idea but look what happend to them:( Gbm.

gogold		Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 9:29:11 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 5/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: gore Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 56 time(s) in 45 post(s)		The more i think about the more i can see that GBM is right you guys, it would be very hard for you to make sure that 1person (thats all it takes) dosent ruin it for all, also to if it was the 1st of its kind in nz then im sure the spotlight would be on you and the magnifying glass out looking for the slightest mistakes. also to you are trying to stop poaching by doing this and GBM is right about fees why would they do it when they can poach for free duz seem kinda silly. but hey if if a few of you out there really want a claim to go to then y dont you team up and go part shares in a claim between 4 or 5 people? that would ease the financial constraints if all costs got evenly spread. just make sure you all have an understanding of how it would work before you enter into it. for example do you get to keep all gold you find or dose a percentage have to go to the group/ how you would share time on the claim/ how to settle any disputes that arise or all manage to agree on something will there be a leader etc youl have to remember too that most RMA consents will probably only allow you to have 1 or 2 dredges at any time, if in otago the permited activity rule allows for multiple dredges providing they are more then 500m apart. just something to think about as it would be a much better option then a club, i know i will be highly farked off if i got banned from dredging becouse 20idiots that belong to a club pissed off the greenies. one snail on the coast can stop a multimillion dollar company from mining just think how little it will take to stop dredging.

element111		Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 3:28:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 2/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 114 Location: blenheim Thanks: 49 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 21 post(s)		i know of heapsa people who have got claims and dont have a problem at all, it takes alot of time to set up your dredge move it into the spot and then dredge then pull it apart stash it all in one day so i dont see how 20 "idoits" can do that all on the same day when majority of people work for a living and looking for gold is a hobby, allrighty were looking at leasing a bit of our claim my mate just ordered a 5inch proline dredge from the states its getting flowen here, so our old keene 4inch will be up for lease aswell got dive set up and everything all the bells and whistles we will put a thing up here for tender soonish also got a keene 4inch dredge everything except a motor for sale if that is what you are after

LepreSean		Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 3:34:30 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 8/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 171 Location: Wherever I may roam Thanks: 187 times Was thanked: 130 time(s) in 78 post(s)		here is an example of somebody trying to be an agent http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-518480600.htm this guy has not even put his pan in the river, and is speculating on questionable past returns Here is the permit No 53080 https://data.nzpam.govt.....aspx?commodity=minerals and here is the company info http://www.business.govt.../pages/companies/1440760 Edited by user Sunday, 30 September 2012 2:44:33 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
		auri sacra fames (accursed hunger for gold)

gjj109		Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 8:09:01 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 464 Location: Thames Thanks: 217 times Was thanked: 194 time(s) in 115 post(s)		Well that is certainly handy to the big southern town with easy road access. A southern dredge man would have to have a look at least.

gingerbreadman		Posted : Sunday, 30 September 2012 12:18:46 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 473 Location: south of the black stump Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 96 time(s) in 74 post(s)		Originally Posted by: LepreSean here is an example of somebody trying to be an agent http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-518480600.htm this guy has not even put his pan in the river, and is speculating on questionable past returns Iv had the dredge in there a couple of times and got piss all...good fishing though !

digger37		Posted : Friday, 5 October 2012 11:03:23 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2010(UTC) Posts: 34 Location: Nelson Thanks: 7 times Was thanked: 16 time(s) in 8 post(s)		I also have a claim up the waka, I caught same guy last year on my claim 10 meters away from a mining permit sign... when asked: Did you not see that mining permit sign he replied: I didn't take any notice of that....!!! Since then I have 3 security cameras operating on my claim these are only looking for mining claim poachers nothing else... (moultrie.co.nz or trademe a good place to start for cameras). There are still parts of the Wakamarina river area that do not have river mining permits common sense tills most people why not go and scratch around on unclaimed parts rather then someones hard earned river claim. This summer will be interesting must get some bullets for my riffle in case I see some feral things to shoot!.

murrayfromchch		Posted : Friday, 5 October 2012 9:59:13 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 18/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: chch Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 2 post(s)		"FERAL"s So if they are hanging from a tree its poss JD (MANY THANKS) if they have holes it could be digger37 and if they have rocks instead of brains its probably me, there must be a few cameras up the waka now , how about sharing a data base on line ?

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