New Zealand Gold Prospecting & Metal Detecting Forums Archive

 

The forum has moved to community.paydirt.co.nz, see you there!

This forum is now an archive to preserve the knowledge and finds posted here.

icemaneli  
Posted : Wednesday, 5 September 2012 11:31:11 PM(UTC)
icemaneli

Rank: Gold Flake

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/09/2012(UTC)
Posts: 19
New Zealand
Location: Darfield

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
Hi all, i stumbled upon this forum a while ago while doing some uni work and been reading up on some of the interesting topics in the forums since. Im in my final year of a degree in geology at Canterbury uni and heading on to a masters next year so naturally i find gold and everything about it in New Zealand pretty interesting. So far though my dabbling into prospecting has been limited, just the odd pan here and there (in a fossicking area of course) with little to show for it. Never the less i like the adventure and exploration that comes with the territory and putting my newly learned knowledge into practice, looking for gold, metals and gems but also just looking around and trying to understand why things are the way they are. So maybe ill be of some help in the forums on geology matters, but go easy im only an undergrad. Cheers
Shelia  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 8:35:11 AM(UTC)
Shelia

Rank: Gold Nugget

Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/01/2011(UTC)
Posts: 45
Location: Dunedin/Arrowtown

Thanks: 20 times
Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)
Welcome icemaneli. It's a great hobby (addiction).

Cheers,
Shelia
overdog  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 6:20:43 PM(UTC)
overdog

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC)
Posts: 418
Man
Location: nelson

Thanks: 69 times
Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)
Ok heres one thats always bothered me-why is gold usually associated with ironsands?
icemaneli  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 6:56:02 PM(UTC)
icemaneli

Rank: Gold Flake

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/09/2012(UTC)
Posts: 19
New Zealand
Location: Darfield

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
not sure if your just testing me but here goes;
I think the association of gold with iron sand is generally a post erosional process, essentially all the heavy minerals gold, haematite, ilmenite etc. being concentrated together then deposited on the beach/river. The same reason you find black sands? in the bottom of your pan along with the gold.
oroplata  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 7:45:43 PM(UTC)
oroplata

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered, Moderators
Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,040
Location: Christchurch

Thanks: 23 times
Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)

Yep, it's a density thing and alluvial related. They come from different sources up there in them there mountains, but congregate in the same spot down at the beach. A bit like drunken teens.

overdog  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 7:50:12 PM(UTC)
overdog

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC)
Posts: 418
Man
Location: nelson

Thanks: 69 times
Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)
OK Ill own up-I was kinda testing!
Next one-likleyhood of gold deposited by water action in caves.Discuss lol...
icemaneli  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 10:14:50 PM(UTC)
icemaneli

Rank: Gold Flake

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/09/2012(UTC)
Posts: 19
New Zealand
Location: Darfield

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
Not entirely sure what you mean overdog but fluvial action in a cave would be no different than in a creek, except that maybe in a flood a cave could become sufficiently full to have some sediments deposited in cracks on the roof though gold with its high specific gravity will still most likely be found at the bottom under all the lighter material. Good enough?
overdog  
Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2012 11:28:19 PM(UTC)
overdog

Rank: Gold Ingot

Medals: Donation: Made a donation helping cover the running costs of the site - thank you :)

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC)
Posts: 418
Man
Location: nelson

Thanks: 69 times
Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)
Kinda-up here there are plenty of caves sinkholes and resurgences-classic karst landscape.I am convinced there are some pretty sizeable amounts hidden in there.My question is this-does gold occur in limestone/granite areas?
icemaneli  
Posted : Friday, 7 September 2012 12:26:30 AM(UTC)
icemaneli

Rank: Gold Flake

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/09/2012(UTC)
Posts: 19
New Zealand
Location: Darfield

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
Gold is where you find it, he he.
But seriously it depends on whether or not the particular location has had the right history. so yes it is possible to find gold in carbonates and granites but in your area i cant say, you need heat and fluids for any mineralization to occur so i'd start by researching what work has already been done. i think i remember that some gold had been mined in the caples terrane in Tasman but i am not to sure. if you really want to find out where the source of gold is, a quick Google search will likely reveal something.
oroplata  
Posted : Friday, 7 September 2012 1:18:28 AM(UTC)
oroplata

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered, Moderators
Joined: 16/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,040
Location: Christchurch

Thanks: 23 times
Was thanked: 211 time(s) in 152 post(s)
Originally Posted by: overdog Go to Quoted Post

Next one-likleyhood of gold deposited by water action in caves.


When the waves sink the boat, the 1kg bullion bars pretty much go down like a lead weight.

icemaneli  
Posted : Friday, 7 September 2012 8:38:02 AM(UTC)
icemaneli

Rank: Gold Flake

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/09/2012(UTC)
Posts: 19
New Zealand
Location: Darfield

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
@ oroplata they go down more like 2x lead weights, gold is really dense.
hopefull2012  
Posted : Friday, 7 September 2012 11:51:54 AM(UTC)
hopefull2012

Rank: Gold Dust

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/09/2012(UTC)
Posts: 4
New Zealand
Location: whangarei

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)
Hi everyone, I am a newbie and a motorhomer, looking forward to trying a bit of fossicking in the SI in the new year.
I tried panning about 30 years ago at Arrowtown, I think and know that I have a lot to learn. But I am sure looking forward to it
Lammerlaw  
Posted : Sunday, 9 September 2012 12:06:53 AM(UTC)
Lammerlaw

Rank: Gold Ingot

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC)
Posts: 1,721

Thanks: 72 times
Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)
Originally Posted by: overdog Go to Quoted Post
Ok heres one thats always bothered me-why is gold usually associated with ironsands?


Gold isnt necessarily associated with blacksands - it depends entirely on the geology of the countryside and its mineral associations. In fact on all three of our claims I can never recall Blacksands such as are common in Central Otago around Arrowtown etc etc. It is dependent on the minerals that are present within the same watersheds as the Gold or which have been derived from the same sources.

If you lived at Macraes Flat you might ask 'Why is the Gold found in the stream usually associated with Scheelite sands?' and the answer is that there are scheelite reefs associated with the gold reefs. When the gold ore was put through the crushes at Deep Dell large amounts of Scheelite were a by product of the same Quartz ore.

In other areas you might ask why do I find tiny red pieces of some mineral in the pan with the gold and the answer is that there are Cinnabar associations within the same watershed as the gold you are panning or the cinnabar came to be there in the same manner as the gold.

I dont think it is really correct to state that Gold is usually associated with Iron Sands - it is in some areas but not in others

Also if you look at it from the perspective of why you get the Gold and the Iron Sand together or the Scheelite and Gold together or the Cinnabar and gold together then the answer is purely and simply that these minerals are very heavy and the heavy minerals tend to be concentrated together.

It is all interesting to ponder over and I for one always get a kick out of finding Scheelite in association with the gold or finding cinnabar sands in association with the gold - especially the latter - in one area on our place I have found cinnabar sands in association with the gold though only traces...its all very interesting.

Edited by user Sunday, 9 September 2012 12:13:24 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified