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Hey all,

i couldn't find my old "in the news" so i have started a fresh thread, with 2 links:


1. local detectorist gets busted on doc land. admits digging up crap such as bullets - gets a warning

http://www.odt.co.nz/you...ker-doc-land-not-charged


2. old dredge bucket ladder moved back to bendigo

http://www.odt.co.nz/reg.../bucket-ladder-back-home

gavin,

i know they were there somewhere. hunted for ages, just to find it straight after i posted in this new one! always the way.

GUys, even that i am not from South Island,
I think all of you should unite and organize meeting with Doc rep:
Jacob Dexter +6434402097

The legislation he is reffering to is :
http://www.legislation.g...66/latest/DLM444607.html

Historic reserves

(1) It is hereby declared that the appropriate provisions of this Act shall have effect, in relation to reserves classified as historic reserves, for the purpose of protecting and preserving in perpetuity such places, objects, and natural features, and such things thereon or therein contained as are of historic, archaeological, cultural, educational, and other special interest.

(2) It is hereby further declared that, having regard to the general purposes specified in subsection (1), every historic reserve shall be so administered and maintained that—

(a) the structures, objects, and sites illustrate with integrity the history of New Zealand:

(b) the public shall have freedom of entry and access to the reserve, subject to the specific powers conferred on the administering body by sections 58 and 58A, to any bylaws under this Act applying to the reserve, and to such conditions and restrictions as the administering body considers to be necessary for the protection and general well-being of the reserve and for the protection and control of the public using it:

(c) where scenic, archaeological, geological, biological, or other scientific features, or indigenous flora or fauna, or wildlife are present on the reserve, those features or that flora or fauna or wildlife shall be managed and protected to the extent compatible with the principal or primary purpose of the reserve:

(d) to the extent compatible with the principal or primary purpose of the reserve, its value as a soil, water, and forest conservation area shall be maintained:

(e) except where the Minister otherwise determines, the indigenous flora and fauna and natural environment shall as far as possible be preserved:

provided that nothing in paragraph (c) shall authorise the doing of anything with respect to fauna or wildlife that would contravene any provision of the Wildlife Act 1953 or any regulations or Proclamation or notification under that Act, and nothing in this subsection shall authorise the doing of anything with respect to archaeological features in any reserve that would contravene any provision of the Historic Places Act 1993.

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Now, What is not taken into consideration Anywhere is the VERY SIMPLE THING: "COLTURAL LAYER OF SOIL" that grown up VERY VERY FAST in NEW ZEALND

ANd also the Depth Detectors go to.
Guys, your thoughts? should we contact the guy to discuss further? HE has to stand up before Community rather than media who has presented crap article in a very terrible light.

Hi Drunkbrother,

I'm not sure what it is that has got up your nose. Is there something you think you should be able to do that you now find you are not able to?

What is a coltural layer by the way?.

If we just use common sense as to where we go and what we do, there are not many places unavailable to us.

Just wait till we need a persmission slip to take a dump in the water of your toilet bowl from the local iwi....

This is absolutly bloody pathetic of DOC & and so they shouldnt have prosecuted. The guy was using a detector.....that alone will tell you that what he dug up was obviously not above the ground & so not visible to the eye. So as long as he was senseable in his digging & left the area as he found it....then what is the bloody problem. What he found that wasnt visable to the eye would have just rotted away & become part of the soil anyway. What is the point of that? So weather he dug it out or not, no one knew it was there in the first place, not even bloody DOC, so no one is any the wiser. Big brother waving their big bully stick at us mere mortels. Get a bloody life lossers.
Stick this in your pipe & smoke it.

These items would have been lost for ever had I not of come along & "rescued" them. They have been saved & live to tell a story of days gone bye that otherwise would have been lost for ever. I may just pass them on to a museum one day & tell them of there location.





1884 one penny found in the same location







Go hard & take no shit

JW :)

Poor Bloody DOC. Doesn't matter what they do, they will always upset someone.

On this occasion, what else could or should they have done. The guy wasn't prosecuted. I don't know the reserve concerned, but it appears it is of special significance to someone for something. So Doc told him he was a naughty boy and don't do it again. Seems fair to me. If they had done nothing, that is am open invitation to all and sundry to come and dig holes wherever they please.

Plenty of other places to go and swing your coil.

Nearly 30% of NZ is public land administered by DOC. That should give you plenty of area to wander around on looking for a penny.

Keep your detector out of the public fossicking areas. They should be for mum, dad and the kids to go to, so they have a chance of finding a flake or two.

also cant detect on council land ie parks,reserves,playgrounds,roadside verges,riverbanks.......

Havent been busted on DIC land yet but if I do Ill just outright lie and say Im from one of the big companies,Oceana Gold or someone like that, we have a prospecting permit, heres my (false) ID and see what happens...