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roman holiday  
Posted : Monday, 15 November 2010 10:09:29 AM(UTC)
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Richie wrote:
Hey Bikerman I've brought in a hand pump from gold n sand, I think all up with a spare set of valves (which I have never used) cost $206.00 with alittle over a week on delivery, I'm wrapped with the performance once you understand how to use it properly, A true asset to your back pack.....you wont regret it...

Could also be a good time to buy with the Kiwi so strong at the moment. Im thinking of stocking up on the pump... and both sizes of the plastic California sluice box....
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Posted : Sunday, 9 January 2011 3:02:39 AM(UTC)
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Got one on the way over now, bout a week away I expect, cant wait to try it out
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Posted : Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:17:26 AM(UTC)
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With the plastic sluices you need to weight them down and keep them straight as they are not rigid.

I have added a PVC pipe on each side into which I can add gravel at the site, after checking for nuggets... of course. I use cable ties to hold them on. They can be cut off for packing and are cheap to replace.

Using PVC adds some weight so a backpacker may want to use a canvas bag or similar instead. Anyway you are all a resourceful bunch so I am sure you'll find a better way. :-)

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Posted : Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:34:20 AM(UTC)
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Hi Everyone - I didnt even know that you could buy plastic sluice boxes but after reading these posts I am beginning to wonder about good old Kiwi ingenuity and make do as it is quite apparent that no commercial sluice box is any better to many made by fellows themselves - I would never dream of buying a sluice box - I have made all of mine on the never never (nothing to buy - scrounged, found, purloined, begged, borrowed and never you mind)

My own suggestion is that you find aluminium sheeting, bending it to the dimensions you want and add your riffles to the dimensions you deem roght for you...theres no golden rule because because a sluice box that is totally 100% efficient in one place might be no good in another. Variables have to be taken into account - water flow, water volume, gradient and so on.

For the reasons above a 'good all rounder' is as good as anything and home made is cheap.

To get ideas historical photos and photos on the gold mining forums can lead to you making your own El Cheapo which is just as good as anything.

My own sluice box is two old mainframe computer boxes joined end for end and they are ideal for my purposes.

The only time to go commercial to my way of thinking is if you have money to burn, no workshop or facilities to make you own or are a just passing through but even in saying that I took a Belgium gold seeker to my place for a few days and he POSTED all his gear out from Belgium and it filled a vehicle like a Subaru stationwagon to within six inches of the roof! I kid you not.
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Posted : Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:12:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Go to Quoted Post
Hi Everyone - I didnt even know that you could buy plastic sluice boxes but after reading these posts I am beginning to wonder about good old Kiwi ingenuity and make do as it is quite apparent that no commercial sluice box is any better to many made by fellows themselves - I would never dream of buying a sluice box - I have made all of mine on the never never (nothing to buy - scrounged, found, purloined, begged, borrowed and never you mind)

My own suggestion is that you find aluminium sheeting, bending it to the dimensions you want and add your riffles to the dimensions you deem roght for you...theres no golden rule because because a sluice box that is totally 100% efficient in one place might be no good in another. Variables have to be taken into account - water flow, water volume, gradient and so on.

For the reasons above a 'good all rounder' is as good as anything and home made is cheap.

To get ideas historical photos and photos on the gold mining forums can lead to you making your own El Cheapo which is just as good as anything.

My own sluice box is two old mainframe computer boxes joined end for end and they are ideal for my purposes.

The only time to go commercial to my way of thinking is if you have money to burn, no workshop or facilities to make you own or are a just passing through but even in saying that I took a Belgium gold seeker to my place for a few days and he POSTED all his gear out from Belgium and it filled a vehicle like a Subaru stationwagon to within six inches of the roof! I kid you not.


G'day Graeme, I couldnt agree with you more. No one sluice box is going to be 100% efficient in all situations. As well as the variables you mention it also depends on the size & shape of the gold in the material being worked & the material itself. Is it clayey, fine, course, granular, sandy, a mix of all & is there lots of black sands. Big, small, fine?? etc.

The only sluice box I bought was the one that came with my dredge. All my other boxs & gear I have made myself. Half the fun is making your own gear & putting it to the test out in the field. That is how you learn what works & what doesnt & what works better, & why.
A sluice box really isnt difficult to throw together. Even a drop riffle one. All you need is a router or the means of ripping a series of grooves or channels in to a ply base in a sluice box. You can space them at what ever distance you want & what ever depth.

JW :)
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Posted : Thursday, 6 October 2011 9:03:17 AM(UTC)
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I am pretty hopeless at making things so bought a plastic sluice box with detachable legs and a sorting bucket attached. Since I am daydreaming about trying this out in summer and have never used a sluice before please can anyone tell me whether the sluice can be completely submerged in a stream, set up at the correct angle on its legs (1in 10 slope I read?) with just the bucket showing above water. In other words will water flow down a slope and increase speed even if that slope is fully submerged.
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Posted : Thursday, 6 October 2011 9:21:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kaka Go to Quoted Post
I am pretty hopeless at making things so bought a plastic sluice box with detachable legs and a sorting bucket attached. Since I am daydreaming about trying this out in summer and have never used a sluice before please can anyone tell me whether the sluice can be completely submerged in a stream, set up at the correct angle on its legs (1in 10 slope I read?) with just the bucket showing above water. In other words will water flow down a slope and increase speed even if that slope is fully submerged.


There is only ONE reason that you are hopeless at making things and that is because YOU THINK YOU ARE as stated above. NOT RIGHT - you can do anything you want if you merely decide to do it. You can take inspiration for a design from any one of hundreds on the various forums, look at how they are made, scrounge around for materials, adopt your size and shape to the materials at hand whilst keeping in with the dimensions of the ones on the forums - an intermediate size is all good and a safe bet. If you go to the hardware shop they will have all the screws and nails you want - Stainless steel is best but most expensive common fastener. Pop rivets etc.

I have never ever in my life built cupboards, hung doors, put in door snibs and handles or put up shelves, Gib board or Gib stopped but I did it and all my builder friends say I have done well - its just a matter of thinking of each step as you go. I bought tools I had never used and taught myself to use routers, skilsaws, electric planers - at the end of the day you surprise yourself and feel so good at the end product.

As for your gold mining gear - if you have home made items then you fit into the part of the old sourdough, the experienced miner but the tenderfoot is always readily apparent by the latest 'mods cons' and in my opinion the old saying 'mod cons' is rather quizzical because you are conned into buying modern gear when home made at one tenth of the cost is every bit as good and sometimes better.

From now on believe in yourself and get out there and make it! The only reason I use a commercial snifter is because I found it in the river so it was a freebie but all but one of my snifters for forty years was made out of vintage brass car tyre pumps!

It all sounds fine and dandy a plastic sluice box with legs - how long is it going to last?

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Posted : Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:58:01 AM(UTC)
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Well said Lammerlaw.
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Maverick  
Posted : Saturday, 28 January 2012 9:03:37 PM(UTC)
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Rather than clutter the place with a new thread, this one seems to be on the same subject..

any thoughts on this?

http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-444006909.htm

"The sluices are made from polyetheline
which is the same stuff your wheelie bin is made from,
Extremley Rugged and durable.
The whole length of the sluice is covered in a saw tooth profile to collect fine alluvial gold. "

UserPostedImage


your opinions gentlemen..?
kiwikeith  
Posted : Sunday, 29 January 2012 8:29:10 PM(UTC)
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looks to me to be the bees knees
lightweight and great for fine gold which in most cases is what one gets
good price
simon  
Posted : Sunday, 29 January 2012 9:06:42 PM(UTC)
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i notice again that the topic of sluicebox size has come up. i take it there are some size restrictions that must be listed on a doc website somewhere?

i have never come across this and can't be bothered wasting my time looking at a doc website.

what i can say is that no doc person has ever measured my box. matter of fact doc public access sites around here carry no signage whatsoever. i am wondering if this to to keep the use of the public sites as low as possible as i'm sure more would use them if they were signposted and mentioned the do's and don'ts of what can do used and done.

several times this weekend i have been talking to people who have no idea what the go is. a standard grey area is the disbelief that you can't use even a gold pan wherever you feel like it. when i go into more detail most people are dumbfounded.

at the end of the day i really doubt anyone has or will get in trouble with a box that is a little overlength. i'm sure boffins such as doc have more important things to do such as paperwork and catching guys with suction dredges where they are meant to be.

merry prospecting.
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Posted : Sunday, 29 January 2012 11:50:15 PM(UTC)
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i think it fits in the size regulations, but i'm going on old memory there.
trying to find any information on panning or fossicking on the doc site is very hard.
and in fact if you follow links from other sites pointing toward information about it
you find that most of those pages are no longer there, they are either moved or deleted.
doing a search of the doc website also fails to bring up the pages that are linked.for instance
a link to the activities page brings up not found, and this is probably because the
doc activities page no longer list fossicking as an activity.
your probably right about them doing paperwork rather than measuring sluices though

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Posted : Saturday, 11 February 2012 8:44:21 PM(UTC)
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I just bought one of these which is my first sluice (and I add I have only been out prospecting once on my recent holiday). I tried it out today at home using a bucketful of panned sand and gravel. I knew there was still a few flakes in there. When I cleaned it out I first did the bottom 1/3rd and got about 1 small flake. Then I did the top two thirds and got about 50. I was delighted with that result. I then did 3 panfulls of the residue and found only one tiny speck.

By the way the inside measurement is about 195cm. The regulation I think is 200mm wide. Of course the outside is more than this. Anyhow I got this because I was was interested in rib rubber matting for lightweight travel (by bicycle). I intend to cut off 1/3rd of it and some of the outside material to get the weight down to 1kg. The remainder I will use to build a more sophisticated one maybe with carpet and riffles for car travel. The actual texture is a bit different from the upright angle of ribbed rubber matting. Its kind of flat then a sharp drop, then the next riffle begins after a shallow groove. I think thats similar to (but obviously smaller than) the plastic sluice boxes.

Using the garden hose I probably had 1/2cm water depth and ended up increasing the height from 10cm to about 13cm (length 1m) to get the small pebbles moving better. I wedged in some sticks to control the water flow from the hose. I realise this idea could have potential for bigger riffles (as I have read).
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Posted : Sunday, 12 February 2012 12:09:01 PM(UTC)
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i have purchased a bucket sluice concentrator.

i have some black sand from arrow river i have been trying to refine down, i know there is fine gold in my dirts but cant get this thing to work - have tried changing angle of sluice and water pressure but cant seem to get it right
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Posted : Sunday, 12 February 2012 7:04:15 PM(UTC)
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Hi Falcon. Not sure quite what to say to help you.
There have been quite a few sold down that way so it must be possible to set them up to handle local material. They work well up here.
They aren't really designed to sluice unclassified material - not sure if you have processed your material at all?
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Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 2:44:38 PM(UTC)
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I have classfied it but thinking it might be enoug - what mesh size is the optimum size to get it down too?
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Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 9:46:16 PM(UTC)
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Not sure. I have only really used them to run the concentrates from a dredge or sluice box.
I would have thought you would get away with 1/4 inch without any problem.
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