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Lammerlaws treasures - relics of the Goldfields...plus Gold finds.

nzgold		Posted : Saturday, 3 December 2011 9:03:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 5/08/2010(UTC) Posts: 97 Location: New Zealand Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 20 time(s) in 19 post(s)		Brilliant thread and pictures. It makes interesting reading. Thanks!

chrischch		Posted : Saturday, 3 December 2011 10:22:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/08/2011(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 192 times Was thanked: 105 time(s) in 104 post(s)		" I have found two caches of miners gear which had been placed under rock overhangs many, many years ago by miners who never retrieved by them." Now that would be exciting! I'd be wrapped to ever come across something like that but I'd imagine there wouldnt be many of those left and the ones that are, will be still there for a reason eg unaccessable I guess.
		Fisher Goldbug Pro, Fisher F2, Garrett Propointer.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Saturday, 3 December 2011 10:37:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: chrischch " I have found two caches of miners gear which had been placed under rock overhangs many, many years ago by miners who never retrieved by them." Now that would be exciting! I'd be wrapped to ever come across something like that but I'd imagine there wouldnt be many of those left and the ones that are, will be still there for a reason eg unaccessable I guess. Not so much inaccessible as just not visited since they were left there - most people keep on the beaten track except hunters and gold fossickers! I have always been one for perving into every crack, crevice and chasm and into every overhand and cave so have come across them...Personally I think that back in the old days of the early miners the land was really scoured over by men seeking their fortunes and also during the depression era to a lesser degree. Today many of these places simply are not frequented or very rarely so. Edited by user Monday, 5 December 2011 10:03:52 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

Lammerlaw		Posted : Sunday, 4 December 2011 11:53:19 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		These items are samples of crucibles used for melting the gold before pouring it into ingots. The larger ones came originally from Central Otago mines while the smaller ones were found years ago in Dunedin and would have been used to melt buttons of ore, perhaps sampling. Lammerlaw attached the following image(s):

nzpoohbear40		Posted : Monday, 5 December 2011 12:03:34 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,482 Location: Matura Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 384 time(s) in 329 post(s)		you have some cool stuff there lammerlaw..keep em coming..
		Chris - Fisher Dealer http://www.puiakisupply.co.nz/

Lammerlaw		Posted : Wednesday, 7 December 2011 11:54:39 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: nzpoohbear40 you have some cool stuff there lammerlaw..keep em coming.. A few more to come Chris but all in good time! I have to sort them out and I am sort of otherwise engaged these next two days - which reminds me - I must throw my metal detector into my truck! Shame you cant get down here this weekend as the weather supposed to be good and I am going back to where I was last Saturday.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 8:25:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Chris - Got three and a half penny weight yesterday and nothing today...long walk and tedious - brakes on the truck failed today going down a steep hill so son didnt want me tackling the next hill and so we had a more demanding walk...son probably has more sense than I do. I am thinking of selling out so you guys had better get down sooner rather than later. Dont know what son got yesterday but I know he got something - today a friend dropped his new Goldbug into the stream!

kiwijw		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 9:13:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Lammerlaw Chris - Got three and a half penny weight yesterday and nothing today...long walk and tedious - brakes on the truck failed today going down a steep hill so son didnt want me tackling the next hill and so we had a more demanding walk...son probably has more sense than I do. I am thinking of selling out so you guys had better get down sooner rather than later. Dont know what son got yesterday but I know he got something - today a friend dropped his new Goldbug into the stream! Hi Graeme, Well done. Were you detecting?? Bugger about the brakes. At least you were able to walk away unscathed. Bugger about your friend dropping his bug in the water. Is it ok or did it fry?? Might pay for him to get the Garrett AT Gold. Water proof to 10 feet http://www.akmining.com/...t-s-New-Detector-is-here!-The-AT-Gold... Thanks for the posts & pics. Great stuff. Good luck out there. Regards John :)

Lammerlaw		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 9:42:46 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Hi John - Thanks for the hint re the Garrett and a great idea - I will mention it to my son as he has mentioned metal detecting under water. Until the last few days I had never in my life found gold with a metal detector - I am a relic from the Gold Dredging days. This is most of the gold I have got for first time with detector - I have to admit that I am really impressed with the little Goldbug. All but the two smallest pieces were found yesterday...its pretty pitiful compared with twenty years ago but for my first tries with the detector I am happy. During a moment of 'time out' I took these two photos of my son and another friend whose hooked on Gold fossicking...shooting my Winchester 1873...it was fun until one of the old home loaded black powder cartridges blew up in the breech due to my super crimp! Lucky no damage done! The property is for sale to someone who wants a playground as I have decided to quit it unless I can find someone who wants to lease it so making the most of what may be my last months as owner. Edited by user Sunday, 11 December 2011 9:49:35 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified Lammerlaw attached the following image(s):

kiwijw		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 9:55:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		Hi Graeme, You found the gold detecting....bloody good on you. So much for not being able to teach an old dog new tricks aye. LOL :) There will be no stopping you now. LOL :). Tell you what.....here is a good hint for you. Detecting is a lot easier on the body than dredging. No heavy crap to cart around. None of those shrinking wet suits to contort yourself into, or out of, no ice cream head aches, no throwing around big rocks & jambing fingers etc etc. You will walk a bit but that is at your own pace. Look forward now to a lot more pics of your detected gold. Happy hunting JW :)

Guardian		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 10:10:16 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 30/10/2011(UTC) Posts: 716 Location: Dunedin Thanks: 42 times Was thanked: 222 time(s) in 185 post(s)		It would be a shame to let the place go Graham. I'm guessing you have another past time all set to go! Not to mention you most likely know every place to fossick in otago!

nzpoohbear40		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 10:36:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 14/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,482 Location: Matura Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 384 time(s) in 329 post(s)		sorry to hear you are selling it graham but good to see you got gold with the detector.
		Chris - Fisher Dealer http://www.puiakisupply.co.nz/

Lammerlaw		Posted : Sunday, 11 December 2011 10:41:56 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Greg and Chris - believe me I dont want to sell it but its the biggest gorse and broom patch in Kiwiland so something has to be done - I could lease it out for grazing but no takers and if I could set up a website promoting its conservation values I would try to solicit donations for the control of noxious plants - an idea I got from a girl who set up a website promoting her property and asking for donations to pay of her mortgage...sadly I cant set up websites!

Guardian		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 5:23:44 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 30/10/2011(UTC) Posts: 716 Location: Dunedin Thanks: 42 times Was thanked: 222 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Hi Graham, I don't think a website would be that hard to set up. I agree that the land should have a use and I'm sure it has many. I wonder what type of venture could be setup to get the returns you require? Maybe a group hunt with an arrangement with finds. Must be something that can be done that requires little start up capital and allows you to keep something that most of us can only dream about having. Might be time to seriously consider that book *8^) Would be a good way to ask for donations. I don't know the first thing about owning land but it just seems there is so much potential. I realize what a huge part of your life this land has been so deciding to sell must have been very difficult and I respect that. If I can help at all just let me know.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 9:03:39 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Guardian Hi Graham, I don't think a website would be that hard to set up. I agree that the land should have a use and I'm sure it has many. I wonder what type of venture could be setup to get the returns you require? Maybe a group hunt with an arrangement with finds. Must be something that can be done that requires little start up capital and allows you to keep something that most of us can only dream about having. Might be time to seriously consider that book *8^) Would be a good way to ask for donations. I don't know the first thing about owning land but it just seems there is so much potential. I realize what a huge part of your life this land has been so deciding to sell must have been very difficult and I respect that. If I can help at all just let me know. Hi Gregg - nothing is hard when you know how and I haven to got a clue how to even begin. It has high conservation value so I wanted to have articles on the Falcon, Geckos, orchids and the natural values then a chapter on history. From there to go to problems with gorse and broom and to set up the site in such a way that people can 'subscribe' or donate to enhance its conservation values by controlling and pushing the noxious plants back - not so absurd considering that 2/3 of the property is already protected under a covenant. I person i knew and who loved up there was going to do it and I was going to give them free access to the place to go panning and hunting but unfortunately they went across the ditch.

Guardian		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 1:22:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 30/10/2011(UTC) Posts: 716 Location: Dunedin Thanks: 42 times Was thanked: 222 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Hi Graham. I only know the basics about creating a web site but as everything that's all that is needed to begin. If you can find that other web page then that's a good start, get an idea of the layout and style and changes you would make or features you would like. Once you get a few people involved who are passionate it will grow from there and it's all ready started.. you have people on here that no doubt would trade labour or other skills for a good place to go hunting, fossicking etc. I'll put my hand up to help! I remember you said to me "When I'm Prime Minister" well it's your land so it's your rules.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 1:28:09 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Guardian Hi Graham. I only know the basics about creating a web site but as everything that's all that is needed to begin. If you can find that other web page then that's a good start, get an idea of the layout and style and changes you would make or features you would like. Once you get a few people involved who are passionate it will grow from there and it's all ready started.. you have people on here that no doubt would trade labour or other skills for a good place to go hunting, fossicking etc. I'll put my hand up to help! I remember you said to me "When I'm Prime Minister" well it's your land so it's your rules. If you know how to set up a website successfully, help write up the Political Propaganda broadcast side of things, photos etc then you would have a place to go when you saw fit, take the kids, pan for gold and go walkies looking for orchids and all the place has to offer...any way we might talk about it when I see you next - Davids started off a blog spot but times running out now as the gorse and broom now cover hundreds of acres...I will show you next time you are around.

Lammerlaw		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 2:05:53 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Although others may not consider them to be 'treasures of the goldfields' books are indeed treasure - its from books that we gain knowledge - All of the books illustrated here belonged to professional miners, professional from the point of working at mining full time or by qualifiication having gone through the School of Mines. It is from these books that miners and minng engineers learnt their trades and it was through the knowledge gleaned from books and then experience that all past owners of these books were successful in lifes journey. I just love the engraving of the miner with the pick over his shoulder, his swag slung on his belt and his 'Pepperbox' heater thrust into his belt. The two older books which I have showed content photos came from one of New Zealands most successful and famous mining personages and the book 'A Textbook of Mining Geology, came from a chap who went through the School of mines - after he returned from WWI, where, in Gallipoli he won the Military Medal. Note book values of Ion Idriess 'Prospecting for Gold' and the first edition of Ortons 'Underground Treasures' and Prof H.S.Osborn's A 'practical Manual - Minerals, Mines and mining' - they aint cheap - books can be treasures to and in more than one way. Edited by user Friday, 16 December 2011 10:39:03 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified Lammerlaw attached the following image(s):

cavey		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 9:23:04 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 145 Location: Ashburton Thanks: 42 times Was thanked: 22 time(s) in 18 post(s)		I agree books are a great treasure i hear you might be selling your place thats a shame im sure members on here would be keen to give you a hand clearing scrub etc i for one would volenteer no strings attached. Thanks for the great posts great reading . Stu

Lammerlaw		Posted : Monday, 12 December 2011 10:03:13 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 24/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,721 Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 579 time(s) in 396 post(s)		Originally Posted by: cavey I agree books are a great treasure i hear you might be selling your place thats a shame im sure members on here would be keen to give you a hand clearing scrub etc i for one would volenteer no strings attached. Thanks for the great posts great reading . Stu I appreciate that Stuart but its a huge task - gullies full of gorse, its a nightmare really and even the clear areas now have clumps of the accursed stuff - if gorse made a person rich then I daresay I would be the richest Kiwi around! The place could suit someone who wanted to lease it for a small weekly lease and do some work on the gorse - I would have happily leased grazing for a certain amount per week plus gorse control and maintenance of tracks/fences - on terms agreeable to both and in favour more of the other fellow as I dont want much - as long as I have the gold fossicking and hunting for friends and self I am pretty free and easy. Love my books heaps - There are a lot of good books guys on here might be interested in including many of the Geological surveys that were done many years ago on many areas around New Zealand including the books containing the 'New Zealand Geological Survey Reports' - some of these reports refer to individual mines such as the Waitahuna Copper Mine, Deep leads and surveys done on them and various mineral deposits around the country. This book is also a real treasure as it details all the mines, Dredges, Mining companies and Mining operations throughout New Zealand at the time of publishing, in this case 1906 Edited by user Monday, 12 December 2011 10:05:16 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified Lammerlaw attached the following image(s):

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